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Cox says I have too much voltage on my coaxial lines

Posted on 10/22/23 at 5:21 pm
Posted by NolaTiger52
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2018
1859 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 5:21 pm
Internets been out for a few days. It started with an outage in the area, but never came back on for me.

Cox came out, and he tells me I have too much voltage running up the coaxial line, and says this is the reason I have no internet. Told my landlord, and he’s trying to get an electrician out sometime this week. Is there anything I can try in the meantime?

In an old house in Uptown Nola if that makes any difference
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 6:52 pm to
Sounds like BS to me. If the modem powers up and doesn't catch on fire then it seems happy with the incoming voltage. And given that "too much voltage running up the coax" doesn't make much sense.

I'd tell cox to get their asses back out there and make it work like now.
Posted by NolaTiger52
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2018
1859 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 7:03 pm to
I saw his handheld voltage meter, it was showing a little under 75 volts. I looked it up, and apparently that’s high.

He said something about the signal (no idea if that’s the right word for what flows through coax) not being able to get through with voltage that high.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

I saw his handheld voltage meter, it was showing a little under 75 volts. I looked it up, and apparently that’s high.
What was he testing? What was it hooked to? The signal coming from your modem or coming down the coax from outside?

Did the cox guy tell you to call an electrician, or did you decide that?

AFAIK the signal strength on the coax has nothing to do with your mains voltage (which if there was a real problem there you would see other problems). The modem can adjust its own output and cox is responsible for signal strength on their end.

You need to call them and have them explain the exact problem and what THEY are doing to fix it.
Posted by NolaTiger52
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2018
1859 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

The signal coming from your modem or coming down the coax from outside?

Coax from the outside
quote:

Did the cox guy tell you to call an electrician

He did. He said he legally had to make me aware that the voltage was dangerous, and could cause fires. He was also worried about the voltage taking down the whole block’s infrastructure.

He said that it could be a bad outlet somewhere, it could be something on Entergy’s side

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:41 am to
None of that makes sense. The signal on the coax is controlled by cox. And there's no way a bad outlet could cause the signal on the coax to be too high, much less take down a whole block whatever that means.

The cox guy either has no idea what he's doing, or they are having some major issues that they know need to be resolved and they are distracting you with the blame game so you don't do too much fussing.

I would demand a reason for the outage in writing and also a bill credit.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23936 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:02 am to
You can buy a cheap multi-meter from harbor freight for $6 or $7 and test it yourself.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22720 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:01 am to
Typically, when voltage is present on a coax cable, they are getting leaky voltage from a power cable running parallel for too long a distance where there is a capacitance built up between the two. This would typically happen if the power cable and coax were in the same trench or conduit. This would not typically happen in the attic or walls of a house. Also, coax should be a shielded cable to dissipate any capacitance, unless the coax is very old. For 75V to be present, it seems like something that is happening on the Cox side. If your coax was touching an outlet or something in the house that was energized, it would typically carry 110/120V.

As to catching fire, voltage doesn't typically cause fire. It would have to draw some load that would cause amperage to be present on the cable, which could happen. If the amperage was too high, it could get very hot, melt the cable, thus causing the jacket on the cable to catch fire.

I would press Cox more. Keep asking for higher up people...escalate it until you get someone that can tell you exactly what you are looking at. If its coming from outside, turn off your main and see if the 75V is still present. If so, then it is definitely their issue to fix.


ETA: I meant to reply to the OP, but just realized I replied to Kork.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 11:02 am
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2128 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:29 pm to
This seems pretty simple to isolate. Did he disconnect the house at the demarc and test there?

Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7418 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:06 pm to
Sometimes Coax installers will ground the incoming Coax to an electrical panel ground or metal pipe that is also connected to a ground.

Somewhere there maybe a short that is sending 120 to to the coax.

Another thing that can happen is that the coax is so old that it is touching an aerial electrical cable that is just as old and “leaking” voltage to your Coax lines. Could be dangerous.
Posted by mg711
DA PARISH
Member since Dec 2007
144 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:26 pm to
check your ground, disconnect it from Entergy
Posted by Red Boarman
Member since Oct 2023
323 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:01 pm to
That this condition occurred after an outage is telling. Assuming, as has been suggested, the stray voltage remains when cable is disconnected at the service point, your equipment may have been damaged by the outage.

The other possibilities that come to mind, say a mis-wired outlet, a control transformer not connected to ground or neutral, or a long cable run parallel with AC inducing voltage, all would have existed prior to the outage.

I hope you find the issue and give an update.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35537 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

check your ground, disconnect it from Entergy


i had a customer get a $250000 whole house system and theater fried because Cox didn't properly ground their connection to the house. Your advice should be to PROPERLY ground the coax coming into the house.
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
816 posts
Posted on 10/29/23 at 9:11 pm to
I have Comcast but still cable. I'm paying for 1.2g service and was getting maybe 150m down. So I call Comcast and they come out and turns out they put a filter on my line because it was noisy. Zero communication telling me to fix my shite or anything. Just screwed my top of the line service and let me figure out something was wrong.


I had the tech run a home run to my modem since it was the ONLY wire I was using. I don't have tv or anything else, just internet. Consider dropping a cord out a window?
Posted by BigD45
Chambers County, TX
Member since Feb 2007
1151 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 6:26 am to
It sounds like a line amp on the other side of the cable tap is open causing the tap to pass it through. Also, the tap could be faulty. The technician can't do anything about it but submit a ticket to the cable plant managers. They're the ones with the big bucket trucks.

That much interference can cause the internet to go to crap if the internet carriers are below 60Hz which some are that low.

If he submitted a ticket, the cable plant guys should be out to investigate and fix it.
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