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Posted on 9/30/24 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Picayuner
Member since Dec 2016
3669 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 2:31 pm
Educate me. Are satellite phones affordable and reliable? What other methods could be used in a catastrophic event ? Without cell towers
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
7827 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 2:34 pm to
We prefer Ham radio, but that's not for most as it requires effort and a little planning.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28996 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 2:48 pm to
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Are satellite phones affordable and reliable?
T-Mobile / SpaceX are supposed to be launching their direct-to-cell service this year. It might be text messages only at first, with voice and data to follow next year. Once that rolls out it will be the next game-changer.

The thing changing the game currently is Starlink Mini running on a battery pack. You can carry it in a backpack wherever, then just turn it on and connect all your devices to the wifi and use them like normal. This includes wifi calling and texting, and of course data/internet service. Lots of people from all over the country are in Helene's path of destruction right now sharing their starlink service.

Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
5723 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 2:55 pm to
That's really cool, because traditional satellite phone service seems pretty expensive.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27771 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by DrewTheEngineer
Baton Rouge (Oak Hills)
Member since Jun 2006
1139 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 5:04 pm to
Check out Garmin InReach
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
20390 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 7:53 pm to
Amazing how the majority of us on here survived without the comforts we have today but we did…
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
28912 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:21 pm to
Spot X messenger.

Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
9950 posts
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:03 pm to
Baofeng UV-5R Two Way Radio Dual Band 144-148/420-450Mhz Walkie Talkie 1800mAh Li-ion Battery(Black)

You can use repeaters (if they have power) to go longer distances, and they're cheap ($18 ea).

Now, nobody is going to study an hour or two on how to use them except for the other preppers in your hood, if that.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16890 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:53 am to
iPhone 14 and newer has built in satellite phone for emergency use.

Link
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
54691 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 7:01 am to
Damn I miss my BlackBerry Passport Silver
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28996 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:01 am to
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Amazing how the majority of us on here survived without the comforts we have today but we did…

Yeah today's technology improves survivability over the tech of 50 years ago just like the tech of 50 years ago improved survivability over the tech of 100 years ago.
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1450 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:51 am to
Check out Rapid Radios, can only communicate with devices programmed together, but we've tested form BR to San Antonio and its crystal clear with no delay.


LINK /

Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
79547 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:55 am to
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Check out Rapid Radios, can only communicate with devices programmed together, but we've tested form BR to San Antonio and its crystal clear with no delay.


These rely on cell networks being up no?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
28912 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:11 am to
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we've tested form BR to San Antonio and its crystal clear with no delay.


Now what is the difference between BR to San Antonio and the NC mountains????

On top of that they operate on a LTE network. That's basically the same as cellular, just not as fast. In a disaster, if your cell phone doesn't work, these wouldn't work either. Have you tested them with the cellular network down?
This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 10:14 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28996 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:37 am to
Rapid Radios does have that "unlimited range" LTE model which is basically push to talk with cheap service ($50/year). But they also have a VHF/UHF model which I believe that poster is referring to. I don't see where RR specifies a range, but if BR->SA works that's nearly 500 miles. Pretty good if true.

That said I still think full internet access via Starlink is much more useful than direct one-to-one comms in these catastrophic events.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
28912 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:45 am to
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VHF/UHF


UHF/VHF radios are typically line of sight.
Posted by Bueller?
BR
Member since May 2012
47 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:51 am to
I stumbled across the Meshtastic subreddit the other day and went down that rabbit hole. It's definitely more DIY than an off the shelf satellite phone. But, it looks interesting.

https://meshtastic.org/
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1450 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 11:27 am to
You are correct, I should've done my homework. My buddy gave me a unit when he heard I was heading on a trip and we tested it there and back. It appears it does use LTE. Even the Emergency version can be programmed for LTE it appears... Be careful if that a requirement for your use.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
28912 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 11:35 am to
That's why I posted the spot beacon. It allows you to send text messages via satellite that includes your geo-location. IHMO, the advantage of txt vs a sat-phone is bandwidth. The folks I'm sending messages to may not have great reception either. I can get about 200 hours out of mine if I conserve the batteries. I got mine because I frequently travel and camp in areas with no cell receptions (much of the desert SW). The only downside is the subscription cost.
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