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Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:05 pm to
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 9:05 pm to
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Also, from what I've seen they programmed it to give diplomatic non answers to most political and controversial topics. So ChatGPT isn't the conspiracy you guys are making it out to be, the Internet where it training data was pulled from is what you disagree with.


This is probably true…doesn't mean there isn’t any nefarious use of that data behind the scenes.
Posted by ithad2bme
Houston transplant from B.R.
Member since Sep 2008
3468 posts
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:11 pm to
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You can use chat gpt to generate code, but you still have to know what you're doing


This is true for most things. If you understand enough to give it detailed instructions and directions and know what to tell it to revise it is a very useful tool. You can tell it to write content for a website on a topic, or you can give it specific instructions on which keywords to use, how long to make it, key topics to cover, and what voice too write in etc and you will get very different outputs.

My wife runs our digital marketing business and just signed on to be a speaker on ChatGPT at a bunch of marketing conferences this next year, so we have been doing a lot with it, and it can definitely make someone who knows what they doing immensely more productive. I started using it for my work to compose and respond to emails, and while I have to revise them before sending, it has been a great time saver.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27256 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:17 pm to
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IF it is an actual AI, it will be turned into a right wing nut, they all do. If it stays woke, it is not AI and controlled canned responses.


It's semi AI. It does not learn from us. Most of it's info was uploaded last in 2021. It also can not connect to the internet on the back end. So therefore, it can not learn any current events.

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If it stays woke, it is not AI and controlled canned responses.


This is exactly what it is. I have argued abortion, Al Gore's lies and hypocrisy, and Antifa and it not only defends them but will counter with some whataboutisms.


That being said, if you need to fix a toilet, configure a NIC card, or write a silly poem for your SO it's awesome.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:35 am to
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This is probably true…doesn't mean there isn’t any nefarious use of that data behind the scenes.


Follow the money. It goes back to Microsoft who was already their biggest investor and agreed to put $10 Billion more into them last week. They are not funding OpenAI to sway public opinion, they are funding OpenAI to build tools to keep people buying Microsoft Office and Azure cloud services.

I haven't heard too much from the head of Google's AI, they've kept their stuff pretty under wraps. But the heads of the 2 most public AI companies, Sam Altman the CEO of OpenAI that makes ChatGPT, and Emad Mostaq of Stability AI which makes one of the more popular text to image AIs, aren't trying to control people via misinformation on behalf of big government or big corporations. They have their sights set on being extremely disruptive to the status quo and democratizing AI so this power is widespread and in the hands of the people that can use it to empower their own lives and abilities.

They honestly sound a little naive, kind of like how the crypto people thought crypto would take the financial system out of the hands of governments. But that's exactly the kind of person we want driving this AI revolution instead of a company like Google who's main focus will be how they can use this to make the most money, even if it means dumbing/slowing it down to protect their existing businesses and government partners that are threatened by this technology.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 9:37 am
Posted by tigerpawl
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Member since Dec 2003
22233 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:38 am to
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That thing is woke AF.
Garbage in - Garbage out. It's only as good as the instructions given to it and how articulate the user is.
Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
1994 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 12:26 pm to
I'm experimenting this week with using ChatGPT as a personal assistant at work. I've been working with it around simple team planning. The first task I had it help me with was creating a 30-minute team meeting. I gave it information about the team's skillsets and ChatGPT gave me 8 topic suggestions. I then had it fit those ideas into categories with an allocation of time that added up to be 30-minutes total. It took that final requirement and turned around a 30-minute team meeting agenda to work with. I made some minor personal revisions and scheduled the weekly team meeting shortly after.

The second task I've started working on is new-hire training. I have a goal to prep a 6-week training curriculum for college hires. I have completed the first three weeks agenda already, but I have not filled out weeks 4, 5, and 6. I've been using ChatGPT to give me suggestions for training material and recommendations on where the individual should be progress-wise by each week. I still have a bit more left to make a formal 6-week training course, but it's been very enlightening so far on putting the pieces together that I've been lacking.
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69592 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:53 am to
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This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 8:07 am
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:01 pm to
It will also write pretty elaborate code for you if you're a developer.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27256 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:35 pm to
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It will also write pretty elaborate code for you if you're a developer.


Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43296 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:39 pm to
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My programmer friends are using it to get code. A guy on twitter built an entire website based on what GPT told him to do and sold it for $10,000

We are just getting started with this tech. It's wild.


I've been using it to help me learn and grow my skills in this way. Working on a website.. instead of Googling, I ask ChatGPT and it generally gets close enough for me to attempt to implement and fix where it went wrong. Really, really helpful. Especially when combined with GitHub Copilot (AI that helps you write code by giving you suggestions as you are coding)
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22770 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 12:44 am to
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ChatGPT and other AI programs are going to put a LOT of people out of jobs.

The stuff it is capable of is wild from a marketing and sales standpoint is absurd. I’m not familiar enough with the coding capabilities to comment on that.

AI and the corresponding job destruction will eventually lead to UBI.


One day maybe. But not the current ChatGPT. Currently it is only a tool that people can use to do better work like coding. Not a replacement of a person, just a tool.

Now on the other had there are drawing ai sites out there that can make a logo for you as an example that will take the place of graphic designers on sites like fiver.

So as of now. Your job is safe. Who knows what the future holds.

The best use I see for ChatGPT is that it can write snippets and then the program can use those snippets. If a nonprogrammer tried to do the same thing they wouldn't know how to ask and instruct because they aren't familiar with the terminology needed to instruct.

I made a javascript page to do a simple task. I had to modify the code because it didn't work. I had the ai bot try to code a simple color background that faded to white in the center of the page. It faded to white on the edges of the page instead of the center. Swapped two words and fixed it.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43296 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 6:23 am to
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One day maybe. But not the current ChatGPT. Currently it is only a tool that people can use to do better work like coding. Not a replacement of a person, just a tool.

Now on the other had there are drawing ai sites out there that can make a logo for you as an example that will take the place of graphic designers on sites like fiver.

So as of now. Your job is safe. Who knows what the future holds.


I think it's already good enough to make many workers so much more efficient that when employers embrace it they will need to hire less people because productivity per person will be so much greater.

It isn't going to outright replace workers currently, no, but it could start slowing job growth already.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27465 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 9:31 am to
ChatGPT has zero future as long as it requires humans to input things correctly. And, all of these people giving it billions of dollars know that. And, I'd imagine that Microsoft, etc. already have AI that is better than this.

Like everything else these companies are doing, I'd guess this is a major data mining project. Not nefarious, but not what they are saying it is. The only value for this is taking all of the inputs and using it to make money.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22770 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 1:24 pm to
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It isn't going to outright replace workers currently, no, but it could start slowing job growth already.


True. But that is a good thing. 1000 years ago it took half of the entire population to produce food. Now it takes much less. Those people now produce things like xbox games, movies, cooked food, comedy.

Point is, to make the world a better place has a simple standard of measurement. The more productive people are the more shite everyone has.

The USA has in the past excelled beyond all other nation in per capita production. And that led this country to prosperity.

Another way of looking at it is any country that produces, 20 units of output per person will be twice as rich as a country that only produces 10 units of output per person.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 2:53 pm to
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Like everything else these companies are doing, I'd guess this is a major data mining project.


Yes and no. It’s absolutely a public beta test. What you are wrong about is Microsoft having better AI. Microsoft is the company investing Billions in them and is currently working to integrate it into Microsoft products. The motivation is not data mining, it’s getting more subscriptions for Office 365 and more searches for Bing.

Also, OpenAI has announced a paid version of ChatGPT, so if your suspicions are based mostly on it being free, it’s in the process of being monetized where we are the customers and not the product.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43296 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 10:36 pm to
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ChatGPT has zero future as long as it requires humans to input things correctly.




That's some serious head in the sand, man. It's in beta and it is pretty mind blowing how useful it is as a general chat AI. We can't even imagine how it'll evolve over the next 5-10 years. In addition, there are specialized AIs cropping up all over the place.

I can see a company that uses chatGPT or some similar LLM to sell customized call centers for companies, for example, that enable a company to lay off all of the call center workers.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22770 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 11:34 pm to
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It's in beta and it is pretty mind blowing how useful it is as a general chat AI.


Yep, it is already useful. When I was teaching myself html, some javascript and other crap about making web pages I would get on a search engine or login to a message board and look for answer or example code I could alter.

I would have to wait hours or days for someone to respond with an answer that wasn't to what I asked. I would clarify then wait agian for a response. That sucks. Now I can simply ask ChatGPT, questions like "what does this part of the code do?" "how can I modify this code to do X?" and get a response within a minute.

This is great for coders and for teaching yourself all sorts of things online.

Search engines are going to lose business to AI.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27465 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 12:49 pm to
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That's some serious head in the sand, man. It's in beta and it is pretty mind blowing how useful it is as a general chat AI.
I think you misunderstood me. ChatGPT itself has no future. AI has a major future. ChatGPT isn't real AI. It's a farce that will be replaced by something much better. How can ChatGPT replace a call center when it doesn't even have realtime data? Unless I tell it my phone number correctly, it couldn't even call me back.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43296 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 12:55 pm to
chatGPT is the base that many specialized services will use imo. That's the business case.

No, chatgpt itself won't replace a call center, but other companies will leverage chatgpt (paying openAI) rather than build their own LLM from scratch. Then they can build specialized LLMs with chatGPT at the base. LLM SaaS.
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 1:45 pm
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27465 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 1:05 pm to
What do you mean by ChatGPT as a base?
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