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Can my company see how long I’m active on my computer as a remote employee?
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:34 pm
For example we have Skype and Teams. I’ve found that if I leave a YouTube video(work appropriate) on it says I’m active in both and keeps my laptop on.
In outlook I’m always inactive. Just curious if they can see what I’m doing and when I’m working.
In outlook I’m always inactive. Just curious if they can see what I’m doing and when I’m working.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:43 pm to lsutigerelizabeth
If they were so inclined, they could see everything.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:42 pm to lsutigerelizabeth
Try posting this on the OT, they should be able to offer you more insight on this.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:47 pm to Splackavellie
The OT would not have helpful responses in my opinion
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:53 pm to lsutigerelizabeth
Sure, there might be some typical OT answers, however the number of views your topic would receive there compared to on this board will lead to more insight imo. Just have to weed through the bs.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 4:19 pm to lsutigerelizabeth
Yes they can.
But they won't unless they have a reason to.
But they won't unless they have a reason to.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 4:24 pm to Splackavellie
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however the number of views your topic would receive there compared to on this board will lead to more insight imo. Just have to weed through the bs.
this board is the weeding of the BS...
Posted on 11/16/22 at 4:31 pm to lsutigerelizabeth
Is it a company owned laptop? They can probably see anything and everything. Will they do anything? Probably not.
If it's on a personal laptop, they won't be able to do anything
If it's on a personal laptop, they won't be able to do anything
Posted on 11/16/22 at 6:25 pm to lsutigerelizabeth
Depending on how big your company is, IT usually doesn't have time for investigation or monitoring unless someone opens a complaint (I saw LSUTgrE surfing pr0n).
However, your usage of YouTube to keep the computer active is much more easily detectable than you think, if all of your traffic, including for non work resources like YouTube, are routed back through the company (which I've seen done plenty of times before). Then, they don't see you not working, but they see you consume huge amounts of Youtube traffic a day. That's easier to detect.
However, you can keep your computer active (no screensaver) in a much harder way to detect, with a mouse jiggler here. I have one of my in my work PC (not because I'm being monitored, but because if it times out it forces to me re-enter my entire username, which is a random string of numbers, as well as my password every ten minutes.) My ex-wife also has one in hers so she appears active in Teams.
The dongle is essentially a fake mouse that moves your cursor a pixel or two every few seconds. On my company Windows 10 PC, it appears as, "HID-compliant mouse" (HID stands for human interface device), exactly like the built in trackpad, and the Logitech legit mouse I have plugged in. The company would really, really, really have to hate you to go digging through detailed device information on 3 "mice" to figure out what you were doing.
I worked at a small architecture firm (35ppl) in Baton Rouge in the 90s, and people would always ask me things like, "you can read all our emails, can't you?" Yeah, I could have, but I never once, in a year and a half, had time to waste like that. That, and my basic sense of integrity and privacy. There were times where the partners came close to asking me to look to see if someone sent out designs to someone they weren't supposed to, but that's serious intellectual property theft, and I still never had to.
However, your usage of YouTube to keep the computer active is much more easily detectable than you think, if all of your traffic, including for non work resources like YouTube, are routed back through the company (which I've seen done plenty of times before). Then, they don't see you not working, but they see you consume huge amounts of Youtube traffic a day. That's easier to detect.
However, you can keep your computer active (no screensaver) in a much harder way to detect, with a mouse jiggler here. I have one of my in my work PC (not because I'm being monitored, but because if it times out it forces to me re-enter my entire username, which is a random string of numbers, as well as my password every ten minutes.) My ex-wife also has one in hers so she appears active in Teams.
The dongle is essentially a fake mouse that moves your cursor a pixel or two every few seconds. On my company Windows 10 PC, it appears as, "HID-compliant mouse" (HID stands for human interface device), exactly like the built in trackpad, and the Logitech legit mouse I have plugged in. The company would really, really, really have to hate you to go digging through detailed device information on 3 "mice" to figure out what you were doing.
I worked at a small architecture firm (35ppl) in Baton Rouge in the 90s, and people would always ask me things like, "you can read all our emails, can't you?" Yeah, I could have, but I never once, in a year and a half, had time to waste like that. That, and my basic sense of integrity and privacy. There were times where the partners came close to asking me to look to see if someone sent out designs to someone they weren't supposed to, but that's serious intellectual property theft, and I still never had to.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 8:03 pm to LemmyLives
Thank you! Just ordered this
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:30 am to lsutigerelizabeth
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Thank you! Just ordered this
if your IS/IT allows you to install things into the USB, they could not care less about your work schedule..fyi
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:10 am to GrammarKnotsi
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if your IS/IT allows you to install things into the USB, they could not care less about your work schedule..fyi
No way any company is blocking USB ports for keyboards and mice or any other HIDs, especially in a remote environment. USB drives being blocked? Sure. HIDs? No
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:59 am to bluebarracuda
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No way any company is blocking USB ports for keyboards and mice or any other HIDs, especially in a remote environment. USB drives being blocked? Sure. HIDs? No
that's fair, but when you have an issue and we find "spare" plugins, its not going to end well
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:40 am to lsutigerelizabeth
A free thing you can do, an outlook presentation will keep you active and your pc from locking, not sure on affect on other apps(unsure about skype/teams) but hit WINDOWS + TAB to open another desktop and open powerpoint and start a blank presentation and then WINDOWS + TAB back to your original desktop.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 11/20/22 at 6:34 pm to bluebarracuda
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No way any company is blocking USB ports for keyboards and mice or any other HIDs, especially in a remote environment. USB drives being blocked? Sure. HIDs? No
We did a “disable USB” project for a company of about 2000 employees a few months ago.
Posted on 11/21/22 at 7:25 am to Meauxjeaux
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We did a “disable USB” project for a company of about 2000 employees a few months ago.
with a device like this though, its seen as a mouse so its allowed through
Posted on 11/21/22 at 8:58 am to GrammarKnotsi
Years and years ago, we purchased some software that captured key logs and screen images of employees computers. The CEO thought it appropriate to do so to monitor employees (well before the time of WFH).
I was the admin, so I could essentially look at anyone's computer and read what was on the screens. I will say I didn't do it much, and the CEO never even asked about it after insisting I install it.
I rarely ever looked at it, mainly for employees that were having computer issues to see what they were doing to cause that. And I found we had one employee having an affair with another, and discussing their meeting up on yahoo messenger.
I never told anyone, didn't feel it was my place, but it was interesting.
User never knew the software was there. I'm sure those programs are 100% better now, this was back around 2007 or so.
On a company laptop, I would stick to company work. If you are WFH, have your personal computer on the same desk and use it for personal stuff.
I was the admin, so I could essentially look at anyone's computer and read what was on the screens. I will say I didn't do it much, and the CEO never even asked about it after insisting I install it.
I rarely ever looked at it, mainly for employees that were having computer issues to see what they were doing to cause that. And I found we had one employee having an affair with another, and discussing their meeting up on yahoo messenger.

I never told anyone, didn't feel it was my place, but it was interesting.
User never knew the software was there. I'm sure those programs are 100% better now, this was back around 2007 or so.
On a company laptop, I would stick to company work. If you are WFH, have your personal computer on the same desk and use it for personal stuff.
Posted on 11/21/22 at 6:07 pm to kywildcatfanone
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On a company laptop, I would stick to company work.
That would be fine, if that was the question she was asking. But it's not.
Since we're on unrelated anecdotes, I'll give you a great example of how "control" backfires. A hospital system with 30k employees purchased licenses for Box.com so they could ensure every bit of patient data was encrypted when shared.
Howevah, we analyzed traffic on the firewall(s) and determined there were eight storage services seeing more traffic from within the hospital system that were receiving more than 99% more data traffic than the approved solution in a given week. Plenty of eastern Euro/Russian domains, etc. They tried, and users still do what users do.
Let OP cook lunch or play tennis without being f$*@ with in the middle of the day. Everyone else has Slack, Teams, etc., on their phone, let it go. It doesn't serve an actual purpose. If an employee is a f@&* up, you need to have the sack to reprimand or fire them for not getting work done, not the fact that they spent 39 minutes on TigerDroppings on a workday, or that they didn't move their mouse for three hours.
Users will find a way. Just like when I bookmarked outlook.com on my phone because my company wouldn't use MDM to allow me to see my calendar in 2009.
Posted on 11/21/22 at 6:32 pm to lsutigerelizabeth
Novel idea - how about you just do your work and stop being a slacker and then you don't have to worry about it.
Posted on 11/21/22 at 7:08 pm to jfw3535
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just do your work
That's not the same as sitting at a keyboard moving a mouse around, just to make sure the boss knows you're "working" while not actually accomplishing anything.
Work is a mission to accomplish, not just to play like you're in a WWI movie where you just keep going over the top because you were told to. Profit potential->Mission->Activity.
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