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Can Barely Hear Conversations when watching movies on TV

Posted on 3/26/18 at 10:30 am
Posted by BulldogXero
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 10:30 am
I think my arched ceiling doesn't help matters, but I struggle to hear voices when watching movies over the music/ambient noise. I have tried all the stock sound settings on my TV. Would a sound bar help?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 10:34 am to
Sound bar helped my situation. I just got an inexpensive one that just has the bar, no subwoofer. Think I paid around $90 for it. Not super high quality sound, but much better than the TV speakers.
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 10:36 am to
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Would a sound bar help?


not sure if the vizio has it, but the sonos playbar has 2 settings that would help:

speech enhancement - makes TV dialog easier to hear
night sound - adjusts the audio for night time viewing so you can reduce the volume and still experience proper balance and range. At lower volumes, quiet sounds are enhanced and the intensity of loud sounds is reduced.

these 2 settings are great for late night tv watching when all the kids are in bed.
Posted by BulldogXero
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 10:49 am to
The other problem is space. I have nowhere that I feel I can sensibly put the soundbar. My TV stand already has a PS4 and a PS3 in front of the TV and a Switch behind the TV. I have a Dish Network receiver in one cubby and an xbox one in the other.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 10:55 am to
Make room. We got one of those Bose Solo sound bars when they were on special and I can't imagine going back to stock speakers. Not saying you have to get the Bose, although we have been pleased with it, but any decent sound bar should be significantly better than stock speakers. Since space is an issue the Bose Solo is also less wide than your typical soundbar at 24 inches wide, although it is deeper. It's about the size of a cable box from 10-15 years ago when they still had clocks on them.
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 11:01 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:01 am to
My inexpensive Vizio has those features. I think most sound bars come with at least the speech enhancement feature.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:02 am to
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The other problem is space. I have nowhere that I feel I can sensibly put the soundbar. My TV stand already has a PS4 and a PS3 in front of the TV and a Switch behind the TV. I have a Dish Network receiver in one cubby and an xbox one in the other.


You could get a mount and put the soundbar on top of the TV.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:02 am to
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My inexpensive Vizio has those features. I think most sound bars come with at least the speech enhancement feature.


perfect. thats all the OP needs then.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:08 am to
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Bose Solo sound bars


Also comes with a really nice remote
Posted by TejasHorn
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:43 am to
An almost universal problem with new TVs. They're too thin to house decent speakers.

Get a sound bar.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:51 am to
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I struggle to hear voices when watching movies over the music/ambient noise. I have tried all the stock sound settings on my TV. Would a sound bar help?

It should. Dialogue is intended to be mapped to your center channel directly below or above your TV with relatively little surround audio, which is intended to be mapped to the side channels. In this arrangement, the voices come from directly in front of you where the people are on screen. If you only have stereo speakers and don't have that center channel, though, all of the left side surround audio gets sent to the left speaker, all of the right side surround audio gets sent to the right speaker, and the dialogue gets mixed down pretty much equally into all the other stuff coming from the left and right speaker. So, not only are voices coming from off to the side of where you see the people, once it's all mixed down, it can be extremely difficult (if not impossible) to raise the volume of the dialogue without also raising the volume of whatever is drowning it out or without degrading the sound quality due to some signal processing intended to boost the frequencies that human voices span.

A sound bar (or a dedicated center speaker with surround speakers) should give you that dedicated channel right in the center of the action that dialogue is intended to have pretty much to itself (barring the occasion surround effect). The left and right surround audio will be on the left and right speakers of the sound bar and any other surround speakers you might have. You should then be able to increase the volume of only that center channel relative to the volume coming from the sides until you get a nice mix where you can hear everything well and the dialogue is clear and distinct.

Also, even if none of the above applies and you feed it the same signal to all of its speakers, a soundbar or center/surround setup is going to sound better and be more distinct simply because the speaker quality is better, the speakers intended to carry human voice are going to be better matched to reproduce those frequency ranges and make the sound quality better and less muddled, and you're going to get more left to right spatial resolution out of the speakers.

Finally, many of them come with subwoofers and will have a crossover that will send those low frequency effects to only the sub so that your smaller speakers that carry voice and crisper sound aren't muddied by a low-frequency signal coming along for the ride.

Try one out. What's the worst that happens? You still have trouble with dialogue and you return the thing.

I suspect you won't, though. It really can make a huge difference, even if you're not into installing a full blown multispeaker surround system.
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 12:07 pm
Posted by BitBuster
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Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:13 pm to
This may sound stupid, but I'm able to watch my TV at a lower volume with the soundbar vs without.

It's my opinion that if someone is planning on purchasing an ultra-flat TV, then a soundbar needs to be added to their budget. They may look fantastic, but you can't understand WTF they're saying with those crappy little speakers.
Posted by humblepie
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:17 pm to
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The other problem is space.


Maybe try the sonos playbase? not cheap but may be what you need due to space constraints. You can just put the TV or other A/V equipment on top of it.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9956 posts
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:53 am to
I picked up the VIZIO SB3820-C6 38-Inch from Wal Mart. It doesn't come with a subwoofer. I had to do some rearranging on my TV stand, but I got it to work. I'm going to have to stack a couple shelves under my TV because the TV sits to low and the soundbar blocks the infrared remote receiver.

I'm not sure I really like the sound though. It's great if you want to hear miscellaneous background noise or every audible footstep. I am hearing sounds I never heard before, but at the same time, some of the sounds I have heard seemed drowned out or of lesser quality. I guess I just need to play with the bass/treble a bit
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

I picked up the VIZIO SB3820-C6 38-Inch from Wal Mart. It doesn't come with a subwoofer. I had to do some rearranging on my TV stand, but I got it to work. I'm going to have to stack a couple shelves under my TV because the TV sits to low and the soundbar blocks the infrared remote receiver.

I'm not sure I really like the sound though. It's great if you want to hear miscellaneous background noise or every audible footstep. I am hearing sounds I never heard before, but at the same time, some of the sounds I have heard seemed drowned out or of lesser quality. I guess I just need to play with the bass/treble a bit


sounds like you got too cheap of a soundbar to do some of the more sophisticated voice attenuation.


eta and no sub
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 12:10 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:10 pm to
Yeah, play around with the settings to find the one that works best for you. I found doing this while watching Peaky Blinders, or some other show with heavy British accents, to be best.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:18 pm to
quote:


not sure if the vizio has it, but the sonos playbar has 2 settings that would help:

speech enhancement - makes TV dialog easier to hear
night sound - adjusts the audio for night time viewing so you can reduce the volume and still experience proper balance and range. At lower volumes, quiet sounds are enhanced and the intensity of loud sounds is reduced.

these 2 settings are great for late night tv watching when all the kids are in bed.



Yep, we just got the Sonos (during the Ebay 20% coupon thing) and it's already helping

Now late night if I'm watching on Apple TV, I just use bluetooth headphones/buds
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9956 posts
Posted on 3/27/18 at 1:32 pm to
quote:


sounds like you got too cheap of a soundbar to do some of the more sophisticated voice attenuation.


eta and no sub



If I really wanted to go nuts, I'd buy a home theater. I wouldn't get a soundbar and a subwoofer
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
86771 posts
Posted on 3/27/18 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

I wouldn't get a soundbar and a subwoofer


its only $100

same price you paid for the 3820 at walmart.
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 2:22 pm
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