Apple taking more shots at Google...

The tech giants fighting amongst each other is continuously good for us.

So Apple takes data from Google so they can't have the data that Apple has?

They are all made in the same Chinese slave city so it doesn’t matter what overpriced trinket you use.

And I say that while using an iPhone that I wish some fellow American had made.

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They are all made in the same Chinese slave city so it doesn’t matter what overpriced trinket you use.

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Hardware? You are correct.

However, Google and Apple have diverged quite a bit over the last few years when it comes to user privacy.

I trust Apple a bit more than I do Google. It’s definitely a lesser of two evils issue, though.

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If Apple keeps moving in the privacy direction, I may finally make the jump from Android.

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LOL, you poor ignorant bastard, Apple doesn't give a shite about your privacy. They compete directly with Google. They just want to be the sole purveyor of your information.

If you think my comment was in some way an attempt to defend Google and insinuate they are innocent in all of this, you are sorely mistaken.

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Google would not censor their searches or bow to the Chinese and have been banned in China since 2010.

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Sounds like Google has way more integrity. Apple seems to be just pandering, but when money was on the line they fold like a cheap card table.

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Sounds like you've been living under a rock since 2010. Google thought they had the upper hand and could strongarm China back then, but now Google wants China more than China needs Google.

Maybe you missed the Google AI center built in Beijing a few years ago. It's working with the Chinese government on AI, cloud computing, and quantum computing. Remember, this is China which has been obsessed with "civil-military fusion" (i.e. all civilian research gets pipelined to the military) at least since Hu Jintao was in power.


I guess you missed Google Dragonfly which was/is Google's attempt to launch a government-censorship compatible search engine in China. Google tried to keep it secret from their own privacy and security teams.

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Google executives ignored internal warnings about their censored China search plan and threatened that employees would be fired if they spoke out.

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Google’s leadership considered Dragonfly so sensitive that they would often communicate only verbally about it and would not take written notes during high-level meetings to reduce the paper trail, two sources said. Only a few hundred of Google’s 88,000 workforce were briefed about the censorship plan. Some engineers and other staff who were informed about the project were told that they risked losing their jobs if they dared to discuss it with colleagues who were themselves not working on Dragonfly.

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The search engine was designed to comply with the strict censorship regime imposed by China’s ruling Communist Party, blacklisting thousands of words and phrases, including terms such as “human rights,” “student protest,” and “Nobel Prize.” It was developed as an app for Android and iOS devices, and would link people’s search records to their personal cellphone number and track their location.

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Supposedly the project was ended because of the backlash, but some of Google's own employees think that's a lie.


So if I gotta pick the company that works with the Chinese government on censorship and computing supremacy behind closed doors and whose revenue comes almost entirely from data collection and manipulation, or the company that uses cheap foreign labor to assemble electronics like almost every other company does, well, I'm picking the latter.

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Google would not censor their searches or bow to the Chinese

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eta: oh yeah, and all of the above was right smack in the middle of the Hong Kong protests

OnePlus and TCL are cheap Chinese trash.

Only people who don't know any better or people who are apathetic buy that shite. We are in a full blown cold war with a foreign enemy that wants to see our country crumble. How people who still buy products from that country when there are plenty viable alternatives baffles me.


Google and Apple have different business models.

One company sells cheap, China, constructed hardware at premium prices while the other offers free services in exchange for data.

If your not storing kiddie porn on Google photos I fail to the problem.


One company helps the US government fight child trafficking and terrorism.

The other will shield them, but will help foreign countries like China find dissenters in Hong Kong.

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LOL, you poor ignorant bastard, Apple doesn't give a shite about your privacy. They compete directly with Google.

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Wrong, fattie. While they do compete on phones, they have completely different business models. Google's primary goal is to sell everything they gather and know about you to marketers. Thus, they have a vested interest in violating our privacy. They pretty much guve away their ecosystem in order to gain accesa.

Like Microsoft, Apple wants to sell hardware and their ecosystem to you and me. So, privacy (or the illusion of it) is a primary selling point. No, they don't really care about our privacy but they do see it as a competitive advantage, as Tim Cook has mentioned several times.