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Apple releases new 16" Macbook Pro

Posted on 11/14/19 at 9:57 am
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/14/19 at 9:57 am
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Has all the shite we've been asking for. Dedicated escape key instead of being on touch bar, scissor switch keyboard, (4) Thunderbolt 3 ports, new speaker system, 512Gb/16gb base model, same price as previous gens. Can upgrade up to 8TB storage and 64gb memory if you really want

I'll probably scoop the upgraded model with the $710 credit from trading in my 2015 MBP. Doubt I upgrade anything else, dont need more than 1TB/16gb since it's mainly my home computer and I don't game or do videos on it. Should be a great compliment to my Surface Pro


Base Model - $2399
2.6GHz 6-core 9th-generation Intel Core i7 processor
Turbo Boost up to 4.5GHz
AMD Radeon Pro 5300M with 4GB of GDDR6 memory
16GB 2666MHz DDR4 memory
512GB SSD storage¹
16-inch Retina display with True Tone
Touch Bar and Touch ID
Four Thunderbolt 3 ports

Upgraded Model - $2799
2.3GHz 8-core 9th-generation Intel Core i9 processor
Turbo Boost up to 4.8GHz
AMD Radeon Pro 5500M with 4GB of GDDR6 memory
16GB 2666MHz DDR4 memory
1TB SSD storage¹
16-inch Retina display with True Tone
Touch Bar and Touch ID
Four Thunderbolt 3 ports






Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18234 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:09 am to
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Base Model - $2399


That's fricking nuts, what a joke
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 10:10 am
Posted by RebelWithACause
Jackson
Member since Nov 2010
1269 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:10 am to
For that price they should have the Intel 10th-gen processor that other new laptops are shipping with.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18234 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:13 am to
Especially since the competing XPS 15 has just about better specs all the way around (the 5500M is about 5-10% better then the 1650 in the XPS) for the exact same price

XPS Specs:
9th Generation Intel® Core™ i9-9980HK
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650 4GB GDDR5
32GB DDR4-2666MHz, 2x16G
1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
4k OLED Display
Posted by TigerRob20
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3732 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:15 am to
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$710 credit from trading in my 2015 MBP


Where are you getting this from?
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66414 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:19 am to
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Where are you getting this from?


click the top where it says Trade In

punch in your serial and describe the condition, spits out a number. you get your new laptop, send your old one in, they refund the payment account
Posted by TigerRob20
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3732 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:23 am to
Gotcha, didnt know if it was from apple or a third-party.

My mid-2014 15" MBP only nets $560.

I was almost ready to pull the trigger on a newer version, but I'll probably hold off until they start selling some refurb 16" MBPs.

Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51272 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:35 am to
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Base Model - $2399
2.6GHz 6-core 9th-generation Intel Core i7 processor
Turbo Boost up to 4.5GHz
AMD Radeon Pro 5300M with 4GB of GDDR6 memory
16GB 2666MHz DDR4 memory
512GB SSD storage¹
16-inch Retina display with True Tone
Touch Bar and Touch ID
Four Thunderbolt 3 ports


what a joke
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79191 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:07 pm to
Probably my next computer

Though if I could stomach Windows the XPS is such a better value.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66414 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:09 pm to
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Probably my next computer

Though if I could stomach Windows the XPS is such a better value.


they each do things well, that's why i do MBP and Surface Pro. pros and cons to each machine, love em both
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18234 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:15 pm to
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Though if I could stomach Windows the XPS is such a better value


The new XPS line is supposed to be the best machine on the market
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18645 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:47 pm to
I'm pretty torn what to do here....

I bought the high end 15" model in 2013 and it's been running great, the only thing I had to do was replace the screen on it once but it was cheap to get an A-grade on eBay.

Given the direction Apple has been taking the last few years though I've been unsatisfied with them, and so in the past year I built a Ryzen 7 2700X desktop with a 2080 Ti (going to get the 3950X later this month when it launches) and have been actually quite enjoying Windows 10. Windows Subsystem for Linux really makes Windows a thousand times more useful.

So I'm running a split Win10/macOS ecosystem right now and it's working out fine for me, but I know I'll have to replace the MBP sooner or later. I was going to shop around Windows systems but I really don't like any Windows laptops, but felt Apple was no longer an option. Apple may just have saved the MBP for me with this one. I'd probably get the base model though since I don't need a beefy GPU on my laptop anymore.
Posted by wish i was tebow
The Golf Board
Member since Feb 2009
46121 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 2:11 pm to
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I'll probably scoop the upgraded model with the $710 credit from trading in my 2015 MBP


wtf

I put my stuff in last night just to see and my 2015 was only 250. it is 13in but man what a difference. If I got 700 I would most likely upgrade
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18234 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 2:14 pm to
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I was going to shop around Windows systems but I really don't like any Windows laptops


The XPS line and X1 Carbons are bomb arse laptops. They have keyboards that are just as good, if not better than apple. No one can touch apple on trackpads, but those two windows laptops have some of the best trackpads on the platform
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18645 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:01 pm to
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No one can touch apple on trackpads, but those two windows laptops have some of the best trackpads on the platform


Yeah, this is the second biggest problem for me right here (biggest is software though: the iMessage iOS/macOS ecosystem). Apple's trackpads were my main input device for probably a decade, and going to anything else feels awful and downright unnatural to me--granted, I haven't actually tried testing any Windows machine trackpads in a few years.

I'll have to try out this new MBP keyboard but Apple's recent keyboards have really been preventing me from even thinking about buying another one. My girlfriend has last year's model and I hate the lack of escape key. Every time I use it I end up giving unintentional input to the touchbar from hovering my left hand around where the escape key is supposed to be.

Did they drop Linux support from the XPS line? Looks like it from the Dell site. That was one of the draws for the XPS for me in the past.
Posted by auburnu008
I am the bagman
Member since Feb 2010
18528 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 3:20 pm to
My lord Apple is raping folks. $2400 with those specs? HOLY shite.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12757 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:42 pm to
Damn XPS 15 with oled looks amazing.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 10:41 pm to
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The XPS line and X1 Carbons are bomb arse laptops.


They're fine but they aren't in the same category as 16" MBPs. The X1 Carbon has a 14" screen. The 15" Dell XPSes are good but it's still a Dell and don't hold up as well as Lenovos, in my experience.

A better comparison would be the Lenovo P1 which is a great laptops. The trackpad on the P1 is the closest I've come to matching Apple's. If you spec one out with similar hardware (and screen resolution) you are going to get close to the price of a 16" MBP that has a bigger screen. Remember, it's not all about hardware though.

MBPs are good for 7-10 years because the hardware and software are specifically made for each other. My 15" MBP is a 2013 and it still works great for running docker containers, music production, video editing, etc. I did have to replace the keyboard which was a PITA.

Apple OSX is Unix-like which means packages (software installs) are handled modularly and are super easy to manage and I can SSH into a Linux server directly from the terminal. It comes with Garage Band, iMovie, seamless integration with iOS devices, and is much less prone to contracting viruses. Bonus points for OSX not spying on me (yet).

$2.3k well spent.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18645 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:14 pm to
yup, that late-2013 15" MBP is what I'm rolling with but I splurged for the $2.7k one with the better GPU.

Despite being 6 years old now it is a very capable machine for everything except gaming. I used it with a Thunderbolt dock with multiple monitors and ran VMs on it.

The aluminum unibody of the MacBook Pro has been incredibly durable for me too.

6 years ago when I bought this laptop I thought $2.7k was high and was willing to concede running Windows 7 to save all that money people said I would by not buying Macs, so I challenged people in real life and on this board to find me a laptop with similar hardware specs with a 15" or larger screen, made out of a durable material instead of simple plastic, had a nice trackpad, and with a thinner style portable body.

The only thing that really matched up to that was the Razer laptops but those were also around $2600 or so. I would have had to give up something somewhere to go cheaper, like going with a plastic chunkier laptop with a DVD drive.

I don't regret buying the expensive arse MBP and I would do it again especially if I knew it would last me another 6 years.

So I think it's more fair to say that Apple doesn't give you cheaper choices and they dictate what you must buy and that's an expensive product. If that's exactly what you're looking for, the Windows equivalent is probably going to cost you about the same. But in the Windows world you get a lot more freedom to choose what kind of device you want to spend your money on.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51272 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 5:21 am to
Y'all put way too much value on screens.
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