re: Apple Or Android? May The Battle Continue.

the only people who choose Apple are the clueless people who never try Android. Android is 10x more user friendly. unfortunately for me, both of my work devices are Apple.

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Just because it's a "closed" system doesn't make it a monopoly.

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Even if it did, just being a monopoly is no problem. Abusing that position is a problem.

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What monopoly did Apple have over the lighting connector that the EU recently forced to change to a C?

The consumer had plenty of choices made by Samsung & Google LG etc. if you wanted a C connector there it was for you.

EU Eurocrats are micro detailing how private businesses should operate and that's a hell of a slippery slope if there ever was one.

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You are conflating issues now. The charger thing was not an antitrust suit targeting Apple, that was a market-wide rule to reduce waste.

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You are conflating issues now. The charger thing was not an antitrust suit targeting Apple, that was a market-wide rule to reduce waste.

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I never mentioned a monopoly. I was complaining about the EU ruling; you brought up monopolistic practices in that context.

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you brought up monopolistic practices in that context.

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maybe you didnt realize it but the supporting messaging protocols and opening apps up are antitrust issues and are related to maintaining a level competitive landscape.

I have been Android since the beginning, but I still think 90% is just whichever one you happen to learn and integrate into your life. All I ever hear is "Apple is so intuitive" and "it just works". But anytime I'm forced to handle an iPhone, I find it so un-intuitive, that I basically stare at it blankly. I think iPhone people would say the same thing about Android.

I still think the 2 biggest things missing from Android are:

--a workable analog of AirDrop
--a messaging service that has more fulsome capability like iMessage (I think I heard iMessage was going to start integrating/allowing Android users?)

I still come across situations where an iOS user sees me do something on Android that they are amazed at -and then I find my own self amazed at how it's possible that iOS doesn't have it. Most recently, I think that was on WiFi where I used the QR code function to share the connection.

This one is minor, but still sort of WTF: iOS has a feature to turn your lock/home screen wallpaper into basically a random scroll of your photos. Android DOES NOT HAVE THIS! Is it just me, or does that seem like 2004 level feature?

I also think Google Photos is RADICALLY SUPERIOR to everything else.

Oh, and I hate how whichever way the photo/video is sent via text, it down-converts to super shitty, yet people ALWAYS blame this just on Android.

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Do Apple people only use one type of messaging or something?

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The whole “green text messages” thing goes back a long way. While it’s largely meaningless in 2024, that was not always the case.

When Apple rolled out iMessage back in 2011, many people were still paying fees (or subject to limits) on SMS. So basically any text messages you sent to other iPhones became free. That’s probably where the stigma started, because you knew “green messages” were hitting your cellular plan as SMS/MMS. I don’t think major US carriers really charge for SMS/MMS nowadays so I think it’s become largely meaningless from that perspective.

The other, more recent change is group text messages. Group texts among iPhone users have always worked very well via iMessage. For a long time, a non-Apple phone could break a group text chat. I honestly have no idea if this was an issue with certain Android phones, people having old flip phones, carriers not handling group MMS correctly, or what.

The last point of stigma is that iPhones default to iMessage when you send a text to a phone number that’s tied to an iPhone.. as long as the iMessage can be delivered. So when you’re texting friends/family with iPhones you get a blue bubble and a “delivered” notification when the message goes through. If the message can’t be delivered due to cellular issues, someone’s phone being dead, or whatever, it defaults back to SMS/MMS and turns the bubble green. Which creates a bit of positive/negative connotation around the bubble colors.

To answer your actual question - yes Apple people only use one type of messaging because iMessage is automatic when you text a cell phone number tied to an iPhone. So there’s no conscious decision to send a message one way or another unless you’re using iMessage on a computer, iPad, or something along those lines.

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using a native app could also just be an older person thing since thats what we grew up on.

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"Older" people didn't grow up with apps at all gtfo of here

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Seems like when I travel everyone is using Whatsapp or other messaging/DMs through various socials.

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This is what I meant.

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maybe you didnt realize it but the supporting messaging protocols and opening apps up are antitrust issues and are related to maintaining a level competitive landscape.

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Are you saying there isn;t a competitive landscape between Google and Apple?

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you saying there isn;t a competitive landscape between Google and Apple?

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I mean forcing app creators to go through the app store and sandboxing messages from other phone users into a degraded experience is anti competitive in nature.