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re: Apple Or Android? May The Battle Continue.

Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by FLTech
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:49 pm to
It's the most awful phone system I have ever used. My last job had Android phones and it was the biggest piece of shite garbage I have ever used for a phone.
Posted by Fat Batman
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Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:00 pm to
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It's the most awful phone system I have ever used. My last job had Android phones and it was the biggest piece of shite garbage I have ever used for a phone.


based on the thread you just started about reading directions, im going to assume you have a low threshold for learning/figuring things out, the work phone was different from the phone experience you were used to. unable to cope, frustration sets in and you declare it a "piece of shite".
Posted by FLTech
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Member since Sep 2017
12299 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:07 pm to
Yea dude. It’s a piece of shite. The Android operating system fricking sucks compared to iPhone iOS. Period. I had to use android for over 2 years with my previous job and I hated the phone more after 2 years than I did the first day I received it.

Samsung Galaxy S22 - horrible phone with a horrible operating system.

And by the way, I used my work phone 100 times more than I used my personal iPhone so I kind of understand how to use the android after two years of misery with it so frick off. Yea, I’ll say it again… Android is fricking garbage.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 3:09 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:35 pm to
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Yea dude. It’s a piece of shite. The Android operating system fricking sucks compared to iPhone iOS. Period. I had to use android for over 2 years with my previous job and I hated the phone more after 2 years than I did the first day I received it.

Samsung Galaxy S22 - horrible phone with a horrible operating system.

And by the way, I used my work phone 100 times more than I used my personal iPhone so I kind of understand how to use the android after two years of misery with it so frick off. Yea, I’ll say it again… Android is fricking garbage.
Try a Pixel.
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:48 pm to
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FLTech


this dude's having a bad day. melting in 2 threads on the tech board. sorry bro, hope tomorrow is better.
Posted by TigerGman
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:50 pm to
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based on the thread you just started about reading directions, im going to assume you have a low threshold for learning/figuring things out, the work phone was different from the phone experience you were used to. unable to cope, frustration sets in and you declare it a "piece of shite".


So if it takes a wall of text to figure it out, that's OK?

Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1381 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:57 pm to
oh that was a literal picture of him standing in front of the directions?

the amount of instruction is entirely dependent on the complexity of the thing you are trying to do. we don't know either. but ol'boy is obviously frustrated and having problems coping with whatever that issue is.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1381 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 2:36 pm to
slow friday and recently watched the MKBHD podcast talking about the Apple/DOJ case so decided to skim the complaint DOJ filing. its long and i haven't read the whole thing but there is some good stuff in the first several pages. though there are a few already included in the filing, another interesting thing from the case is we might get to see some pretty damning emails from apple leadership.
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
5147 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 3:37 pm to
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Try a Pixel.


This seems like a better option for him. Limited options to mess up, similar to an iphone.

Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 5:00 pm to
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skim the complaint


You need to watch the press conference too.

Still waiting for you to show me where social stigma is in the anti-trust statutes.

Antitrust 301 in law school. First thing we were taught. Stamp out
"Social stigma".
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 5:46 pm to
i already have, im still waiting on you to read an econ 101 book to realize it. but, you should be able to look at the linked filing and find how the DOJ is justifying its antitrust claims. whether or not you agree is simply your prerogative.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 6:13 pm to
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im still waiting on you to read an econ 101 book to realize it. but, you should be able to look at the linked filing and find how the DOJ is justifying its antitrust claims


Dude, I read it long before you skimmed it. That's exactly the problem; the DOJ isn't supposed to be "justifying" its claims. That's exactly the issue: They are using social stigma against certain demographics to justify their actions instead of following the law as it was enacted.

This is the leftist, liberal democrat mindset at work.
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1381 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 6:51 pm to
the whole filing is about how apple's anticompetitive behavior is allowing them to abuse their customers. its not about letting "poors" into the walled garden/prison. its about letting you out, if you so choose, at a reduced cost to switching. which in turn spurs competition and all the good stuff that comes with that for the consumers. android users are only tangentially related to the case. specifically with relation to messaging, android users benefit as a side effect of apple being forced to integrate with a modern more universal messaging protocol, which happens to not shockingly be RCS. all as a way of lowering switching costs to existing iphone users. let me know where to stop:

1. Obtaining a monopoly by superior products, innovation, or business acumen is legal; however, the same result achieved by exclusionary or predatory acts may raise antitrust concerns.
2. Exclusionary conduct can include switching costs (high costs that users of a product would face in switching to a substitute)
3. Switching costs can be monetary, psychological, effort-based, and time-based.
4. Social stigma can be a psycological switching cost for apple users moving to a competitor.
5. The social stigma does not come from apple creating a better messaging experience solely on merit. It comes from excluding iphone users from messaging non-iphone users in a secure and modern fashion.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 4/6/24 at 1:55 am to
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Switching costs can be monetary, psychological, effort-based, and time-based.
4. Social stigma can be a psycological switching cost for apple users moving to a competitor.
5. The social stigma does not come from apple creating a better messaging experience solely on merit. It comes from excluding iphone users from messaging non-iphone users in a secure and modern fashion.


Dude, I don't want to get into this back and forth back forth again so I'm just say this and leave it be for now. What you don;t get is that this is just sound babble the leftist DOJ is making up to give Biden one more thing to tout about. This is not a legal basis for suing a company and is one hell of a slippery slope to start going down. We're gonna start going after companies in highly competitive markets because they may socially impact minorities?

Anyway, I can't wait for Apple to substantively respond. Will be quite interesting to see how leftist company like Apple handles this leftist nonsense.
This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 2:16 am
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1381 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 11:00 am to
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Anyway, I can't wait for Apple to substantively respond. Will be quite interesting to see how leftist company like Apple handles this leftist nonsense.


i don't think they necessarily have to. even if they do it will be more meaningless spin on how they're acting in the users' best interest despite openly wanting to maintain a bare minimum experience for users in the interests of their bottom line:

quote:

“In looking at it with hindsight, I think going forward we need to set a stake in the ground for what features we think are ‘good enough’ for the consumer. I would argue we’re already doing *more* than what would have been good enough. But we find it very hard to regress our product features YOY [year over year].” Existing features “would have been good enough today if we hadn’t introduced [them] already,” and “anything new and especially expensive needs to be rigorously challenged before it’s allowed into the consumer phone.”


they'll probably just end up settling the case to some lesser degree like the tech giants before them in the many similar cases already played out under various political regimes.
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