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re: Apple gives up on home grown Siri; will be powered by Google's Gemini starting next year

Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:28 pm to
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google with their pixel series of phones
That's "copying" Apple? WTF

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bluetooth in ear version of "airpods".
Having bluetooth earbuds is "copying" airpods? All I know is the pixel buds are vastly superior to airpods.

My favorite in this long saga is when iPhone finally started having the drop down taskbar ("notification center") - invented by Google/Android like in 2007 or 2008. iOS didn't have this elemental feature until 2011. LOL And yet, when it came out, the fanboys pissed their britches as if sliced bread had just been invented.

Ditto Siri. Google "talk to text" or "voice" or whatever you want to call it had been radically superior to Siri for years before Siri's debut. And Siri still sucks.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13623 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:21 pm to
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GenAI FOMO has spurred businesses to light nearly $40 billion on fire

MIT NANDA study finds only 5 percent of organizations using AI tools in production at scale

US companies have invested between $35 and $40 billion in Generative AI initiatives and, so far, have almost nothing to show for it.

According to a report [PDF] from MIT's NANDA (Networked Agents and Decentralized AI) initiative, 95 percent of enterprise organizations have gotten zero return from their AI efforts.

Only 5 percent of organizations have successfully integrated AI tools into production at scale.

The report is based on 52 structured interviews with enterprise leaders and on analysis of more than 300 public AI initiatives and announcements, and a survey of 153 business professionals.


Maybe that's why Apple was shy.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19160 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:31 pm to
[quote]Eh I dunno, give Google time and I don't see it being any different.[/quote

They've been making smart phones for as long as apple has
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13307 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:19 pm to
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Google with their pixel series of phones
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That's "copying" Apple? WTF

Oof, reading comprehension my guy. I was stating that Google and their entire Pixel lineup starting with phones, now pixel watches and now pixel buds is, yes, copying apple's strategy and "walled garden".
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Having bluetooth earbuds is "copying" airpods? All I know is the pixel buds are vastly superior to airpods.

I have both and nope. Not even close.

I now know you're beyond biased because literally every YouTube tech reviewer and even sound engineer's have given praise to Apple AirPods Pro 2s (dunno about the 3s).

I like some google products but stop being an anti-apple sheep.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 8:20 pm
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13307 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:21 pm to
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They've been making smart phones for as long as apple has

How long have they being doing Pixel Phones, Pixel Watches and Pixel buds? 2 years?
Innovative.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13623 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:45 pm to
I'm not trying to get in between the three of you, but "smart" phone really means something with an app store.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13532 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:24 pm to
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What chips have surpassed the M chips? Snapdragon is only better at multi-core performance. It doesn't surpass it in power efficiency, graphics, single core performance and AI.

If you're comparing them to Intel and AMD, it's x86-64 vs ARM. Intel and AMD need way more power and are a completely different architecture.


And just as importantly as processing speed and power, the M chips are designed from the ground up to only run Apple software. And the software is similarly written to optimize performance based on the chips unique Mac only architecture.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19160 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:12 am to
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How long have they being doing Pixel Phones, Pixel Watches and Pixel buds? 2 years?
Innovative.


So we are just going to exclude their Nexus line of phones, which were basically superior to iPhones in every way

But the Pixel line turned 9 years old in October
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16559 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:38 am to
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So we are just going to exclude their Nexus line of phones, which were basically superior to iPhones in every way


The Galaxy Nexus was a piece of shite.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19160 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:49 am to
I loved that little piece of shite
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16559 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:31 am to
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I loved that little piece of shite


I think the only phone I hated more was the Blackberry Storm. I was coming from a Droid Incredible which I still think is one of the best Android phones ever made.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 10:33 am
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:42 am to
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Oof, reading comprehension my guy. I was stating that Google and their entire Pixel lineup starting with phones, now pixel watches and now pixel buds is, yes, copying apple's strategy and "walled garden".
I guess.

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I have both and nope. Not even close.
Depends on what you value. I value not having some bizarre white rod sticking out of my ear.

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I like some google products but stop being an anti-apple sheep.
Yep. It just works!
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
13307 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:02 am to
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Depends on what you value. I value not having some bizarre white rod sticking out of my ear.


Haha that's fair. I used to laugh at the original AirPods but somehow the airpod pro's don't bother me. Fair enough point though.

Guess my whole point (maybe I phrased it poorly?) is that Google, with the Pixel lineup of phones, watches and headphones seems to be going to same route as apple.
Samsung has pretty much done the same a while back too with phones, watches and headphones as well.

Anyhow, I like different functionality points and features of both platforms.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57012 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:50 pm to
They aren't copying Apple.

The smartphone world has moved on to ecosystems. Now you have to offer an ecosystem if you want to keep your customers.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29054 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:03 pm to
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The smartphone world has moved on to ecosystems. Now you have to offer an ecosystem if you want to keep your customers.

I want out.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13623 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:07 pm to
I was hard into Windows Phone, which essentially had a non existent app store. But, you could bookmark websites and essentially make them apps on your phone. Oddly, even before password managers became common, it was a better authentication experience than having to constantly re-authenticate to every goddamned app every two weeks like we do now. The apps are only updated to maintain rankings in the store, and it always rears it's head just after I leave the driveway.

Lumia 920
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57012 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:59 pm to
Yeah. MS threw all kinds of money at developers and couldn't get the big ones to develop the popular apps. BB ran into the same problem.

First it was about OS. While they were figuring out OS, Apple changed the game and moved on to apps. BB and MS were unable to get the apps and let's face it, without the top 20 apps you are dead in the water, as they were.

Those two fell by the wayside but now it has evolved to ecosystems. Thus you see Samsung, Google, OnePlus, and even Nothing offering earbuds and/or tablets.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13623 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:12 pm to
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. Thus you see Samsung, Google, OnePlus, and even Nothing offering earbuds and/or tablets.

MS Surface laptops are under-rated, especially when bought used at a discount ($300 for 16GB of RAM, 256GB) in a sleek package.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91703 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:23 am to
I suffered through the original windows phone before iPhones and a million rom flashes later I gave up entirely and orphaned my 5,000 xda posts.

Flashing roms still a thing?

I did have some good times on xda
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57012 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:18 am to
agreed. Unfortunately, they don't have a matching phone anymore.
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