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Wow ESPN..

Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:17 am
Posted by Toby Flenderson
Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
468 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:17 am
They just showed a stat that we had 4 touches in the 18 box to Ghana's 2 while Altidore was in and then after he went down we had 4 to their 20.

While I'm not dismissing the fact that Altidore's injury will hurt us, that stat is so flawed. Their touches were a direct reflection of our tactics of "parking the bus" not an indication of Altidore's impact. Wish we had a reliable media source for soccer on TV
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 12:19 am
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
27539 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:20 am to
That's just stats, man. And Jozy didn't go down right after the goal to play devil's advocate here.
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
48131 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:21 am to
Since soccer doesn't lend itself well to stats like football, baseball, and basketball, ESPN is pulling the most farfetched crap out of their arse they can think of to fill airtime.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92427 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:26 am to
I'm sure we do, just have to look harder. Idk what it would be btw.

As for the stat, it's ridiculous for one, because he got hurt so early. Second, we came out pretty damn aggressive, leading to the 4 early touches. Would have liked to seen us be more aggressive once Ghana started getting so comfortable in our box, but hey, we have no say in that. Plus we couldn't keep possession to save our lives. That alone would have probably changed that stat.
Posted by Toby Flenderson
Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
468 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:30 am to
quote:

As for the stat, it's ridiculous for one, because he got hurt so early. Second, we came out pretty damn aggressive, leading to the 4 early touches. Would have liked to seen us be more aggressive once Ghana started getting so comfortable in our box, but hey, we have no say in that. Plus we couldn't keep possession to save our lives. That alone would have probably changed that stat.



And that's my point. It is no reflection of Altidore that Ghana got all those touches in our box.

We got away with that game against Ghana but we will not be able to do that against Portugal, Germany or any other team in the competition. Not only was it awful to watch, we should have lost that game.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92427 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:37 am to
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Not only was it awful to watch


This it was. I have a feeling they'll play a solid game Sunday though. I have no idea what to think about Portugal though.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9292 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:38 am to
ESPN has done a pretty phenomenal job of covering the WC. It's probably their best covered event.

Yes we didn't get a lot of touches in Ghana's bus bc we were laying defensive on purpose, but losing Jozy in game was just as much a factor if not more
Posted by Toby Flenderson
Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
468 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:12 am to
this was on Sportscenter not the actual coverage. I agree they have done a pretty god job but your average Joe is more likely to see the SC recap and will be misinformed.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:19 am to
Roberto Martínez is money (except for his shoes).
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21061 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:25 am to
quote:

Roberto Martínez is money (except for his shoes).


And Julie Foudy is awful. Only complaint of the coverage I have
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35828 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:41 am to
quote:

Plus we couldn't keep possession


quote:

It is no reflection of Altidore that Ghana got all those touches in our box.


Sure it is.

We had no outlet to play the ball up to you so we were trying to pass our way out of trouble and we failed miserably at it. Those turnovers on our end gave Ghana possession in dangerous areas and led to more touches in our 18.

Had Altidore still been in we could have played more long balls and let him hold up play which would would have given us more possession in dangerous areas and led to fewer give aways in bad positions.

We didn't "park the bus" we just couldn't pass the ball to save our lives.

But carry on with the ESPN bashing since it's the cool thing to do.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 7:43 am
Posted by Wait For It...
Member since Jun 2012
3542 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Roberto Martínez is money (except for his shoes).


Everton fans love the shoes. They call him Bobby Brown Shoes!
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:30 am to
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our tactics of "parking the bus"



We didn't park the bus.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36821 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:49 am to
that stat honestly seems pretty reasonable and telling to me. im not suggesting we read too much into it, but it makes sense and certainly fits into what many of us have thought/known about losing altidore. dont see the issue.
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
26824 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:01 am to
Just saw on the Not Top 10 countdown where they showed Akinfeev's GK debacle at number 2. Jay Crawford says... "It happens to every keeper, you just cant have it happen in the cup." ok

In case you have no idea what I'm talking about click this
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21061 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:31 am to
quote:

"It happens to every keeper, you just cant have it happen in the cup." ok


To be fair Casey Keller said the same thing on WC Tonight
Posted by 4thandinches
River Ridge
Member since Apr 2012
2395 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:35 am to
Their stats in general are ridiculous.

"He will become the first pitcher to throw a curveball for a strike with a south wind of 3.5 MPH, a full moon, 32,567 in attendance, and the catcher wearing his cup upside down. Amazing." - ESPN
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
26824 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:35 am to
Then am I the only one who thinks that it doesn't happen to every keeper? I mean I'm sure in the entire litany of saves a keeper makes in their lifetime on the playground, in training, in scrimmages, and in competitive games it's happened, but to me it just sounded like he was saying that it happens a lot which I don't agree with.
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9094 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Then am I the only one who thinks that it doesn't happen to every keeper?


It happens man.

This one was way worse in the last cup.

Robert Green

They deserved it after the
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crap though.

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