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re: World Cup 2030 USMNT Potential Targets
Posted on 7/26/26 at 9:52 pm to Broski
Posted on 7/26/26 at 9:52 pm to Broski
As a youth coach who saw the changes that occurred from USYS while he was the technical director, I have given him that credit, it’s very possible that’s undeserved, but I think it was a step in the right direction regardless.
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Posted on 7/26/26 at 10:56 pm to Citica8
You’re right about USSF being unorganized and I have no doubt that that affects the youth level. Why ODP though? MLS academies are free btw.
Posted on 7/26/26 at 11:14 pm to Citica8
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I appreciate and respect everything you’ve said in the last 4-6 weeks that I’ve read since I’ve been active on this board, but I don’t think this is the way. The ODP program should be the framework and the goal for every kid that wants to represent this country. It should be the pinnacle and standard that EVERY kid wants to achieve, not medals or patches if they even do that anymore.
It should cost nothing EXTRA and it should funnel into the MLS academies, which should also cost nothing extra, at least in the current system, and that is how we grow.
These two things aren't mutually exclusive.
Regardless of how ODP is run, MLS should be giving the best American 17-19 year olds, that aren't already in Europe, more consistent playing time than 20-25 year old South Americans and 35-40 year old Europeans.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 8:01 am to cwil177
quote:MLS academies are free, MLS Next, MLS Next 2, Pre-MLS Next, are twice as much as local competitive clubs operating outside of ECNL. The academies aren’t identifying and pulling kids with potential out of recreational and lower competitive clubs, they’re pulling them out of showcases tournaments that half the teams are flying to. A former player from our club is in the LA Galaxy academy, whole family moved to Los Angeles, I don’t know if I could move across the country.
Why ODP though? MLS academies are free btw.
Cristiano Ronaldo grew up on an island off the coast of Morocco, how do we make sure we don’t miss out on the next great if they are outside of one of the less than 30 metro areas where MLS academies are operate, like Hawaii. The satellite programs are the same club coaches in Baton Rouge and New Orleans for the Dynamo, so what benefit are you getting in the satellite programs that you wouldn’t get remaining with your local club?
It costs money to try out for ODP. That’s what needs to be changed. I like that ODP has districts, states, and regions, and that funnels into a national ODP team, so it’s self scouting. It’s also supplemental training not primary training so it can be inclusive for those that can’t afford to play in these expensive clubs that travel all over the country.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 8:36 am to Broski
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Regardless of how ODP is run, MLS should be giving the best American 17-19 year olds, that aren't already in Europe, more consistent playing time than 20-25 year old South Americans and 35-40 year old Europeans.
Exactly. The priority of the MLS is profits over success or development, without the fear of relegation the retirement tour concept is stalling any call ups of the top level youth players. You also get MLS teams stockpiling some of those players to prevent other teams from getting them. That’s why I don’t like relying on the MLS academies for development in its current state.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 9:19 am to Citica8
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The priority of the MLS is profits over success or development
Which isn't a bad thing. It's a business after all. There is a happy medium to all this.
It can't be solely a developmental league. That won't work, especially in the American sports landscape. But one way to get eyeballs is to cultivate stars, particularly local stars.
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That’s why I don’t like relying on the MLS academies for development in its current state.
They have a better chance of having success than your revamped ODP idea. The best way to get the best out of your prospects is to have the cache of being attached to a professional club, giving the players a direct pathway to top flight soccer.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 9:21 am
Posted on 7/27/26 at 9:53 am to Broski
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I used to have the belief that sheer American exceptionalism would eventually see us work our way into becoming one of the top 8 teams in international soccer and this tournament was supposed to be the start of that path considering everything that was in our favor.
Watching us get outclassed by one of the worst Belgium teams from that current generation threw a bucket of ice water on that belief. We are who we are and it's not getting any better anytime soon.
Eh, I think this is overly negative. The US is still relatively young in investing in the soccer program...this was never going to become an overnight solution.
The field expended...we won the group and we won a knockout round game (against a team we should beat). Belgium was a disappointing result no matter how we slice it...but Belgium was better than a lot of people have them credit. Belgium only lost 2-1 to the eventual World Cup winners (Spain scoring in the 88th).
USMNT are now playing on the best teams in the world. That is objective progress over the days of old. I believe that is the best indicator of progress we have for the program.
Posted on 7/27/26 at 10:35 am to lynxcat
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USMNT are now playing on the best teams in the world.
More to do with marketing than the talent level being significantly better.
It's a lot easier now for Americans to play abroad than it was in the 2000's.
You mentioning Busio is a perfect example of that. You say it's weird that a Serie A captain isn't factoring into this squad. I'd argue he wouldn't factor in to the 2002, 06 and 10 squads either.
His lack of speed is a death sentence in the international game.
This post was edited on 7/27/26 at 10:47 am
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