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re: United States of F#ck Yeah v. Serbs | Bruce is Back Edition, 3pm CST (ESPN2)

Posted on 1/29/17 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 11:05 pm to
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USA 0 - Canada 0
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Not sure why you posted that pic because that definitely was not the XI for that match.
This post was edited on 1/29/17 at 11:06 pm
Posted by Sheep
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 7:37 am to
That's what came up in Google image search.

Sheep retracts the picture and regrets the error.

Either way, that game was easily one of the worst matches I've ever seen.
This post was edited on 1/30/17 at 7:38 am
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:30 am to
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ither way, that game was easily one of the worst matches I've ever seen.


I was at that game as well. Being reminded of it every time I log into Facebook as it comes up in my memory feed.


I thought the game yesterday showed we are capable of making steps in the right direction. Unfortunate that we didn't have a little more offense around the box but I'm not worried about that. Not too happy with the Zusi experiment as I feel it was a safe choice from Bruce rather than throwing out some of the younger guys for the entire 90 mins. These are the games that I don't mind as a fan when we throw in new guys to the fire. Not play old guys who are past their prime.

Really liked the attacking midfield selections, especially when you think that adding Pullisic to the mix makes us even that much better. The 4231 formation suits the current player pool really well. We will see come the next Hex match.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:06 pm to
Our best formation at this juncture seems to be Altidore up top, Nagbe on the left, Pulisic on the right, Sacha as the ten, Jones and Bradley behind the more forward players, with Johnson at left back, Brooks and Cameron at the centerback positions, and Yedlin at right back. That's one of the more impressive lineups I can think of us having in recent years.
This post was edited on 1/30/17 at 12:07 pm
Posted by oauron
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:21 pm to
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Really? That's all you noticed?

No. I said the big changes are very exaggerated because people are so angry at Klinsmann and anything new is an immediate improvement.

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What about the 4-2-3-1?

No at all new. We've run something very similar to that for the past several months.
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What about Kljestan at 10?

That's where Klinsmann also played him.
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What about Bradley as a true 6?

He was playing at DM after Jurgen finally gave up trying to play him at 10. You could argue that he was playing a little deeper (almost as a 3rd CB) at times, but his role was very similar.
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What about Villafana?

Not much to say. Hope he gets more than a cameo so we can see how he does.
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What about trying Zusi at FB?

I'm glad that BA is trying to build depth at a much needed area, but people would criticize Klinsmann for doing the same thing. I hope it works but if it doesn't, people can jump to "Why are you playing players out of position". For this particular case, I don't think it matters much, because he's at most the 3rd/4th choice RB.

I've never said that things are worse or that I wish JK was still the coach. I just think people are reaching for things based on a match we drew when we should have won handily.
This post was edited on 1/30/17 at 12:25 pm
Posted by etm512
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:27 pm to
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That's one of the more impressive lineups I can think of us having in recent years.


It's pretty well balanced too. You also have enough technical skill in there to break a team down as well as enough quickness and speed to be dangerous on the counter
Posted by etm512
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:30 pm to
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What about Bradley as a true 6?

He was playing at DM after Jurgen finally gave up trying to play him at 10. You could argue that he was playing a little deeper (almost as a 3rd CB) at times, but his role was very similar.


This game it looked very Spursy in the way Poch runs his 4-2-3-1 with Dier dropping in between his 2 CBs, getting width from his FBs up the field and having his 3 behind his striker be able to cut in and interchange across the field. Now when we get Yedlin and Fabian back in there this tactic will be a lot more effective
Posted by oauron
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:55 pm to
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This game it looked very Spursy in the way Poch runs his 4-2-3-1 with Dier dropping in between his 2 CBs, getting width from his FBs up the field and having his 3 behind his striker be able to cut in and interchange across the field. Now when we get Yedlin and Fabian back in there this tactic will be a lot more effective

I agree. We were kinda stuck at times, because we weren't able to get very involved in the attack on the wings. Zusi made some good passes at RB, but he doesn't really have the pace to be very dynamic.
Posted by RedPop4
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 2:25 pm to
The hell was up with Bradley, everyone on ESPN, last night SEEMED to be saying he had a good game.

I saw quite a few, three or four, lame-arse giveaways, just sort of touch it over to the Serbian closest to him. Was that just me? It was like he had passes, but it would just be easier to touch the ball right to his counterpart.

Otherwise saw pretty decent build-up play, then no one to finish. Same old U.S. as ever. These guys couldn't finish in a whorehouse with unlimited funds. Never could.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 6:02 pm to
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Our best formation at this juncture seems to be Altidore up top, Nagbe on the left, Pulisic on the right, Sacha as the ten, Jones and Bradley behind the more forward players, with Johnson at left back, Brooks and Cameron at the centerback positions, and Yedlin at right back. That's one of the more impressive lineups I can think of us having in recent years

Yep, with Benny on the bench ready to spell Kljestan, Lletget and his versatility ready for Jones or the wings, and young guys like Hedges, Birnbaum, and Zimmerman getting some backup minutes.

Also Villafana has to be in the mix for LB as backup to Fabs in case of injury or because Fab's versatility allows us to move him up the wings. Allows us flexibility to adapt if necessary.
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 10:37 pm to
It was much more of a 4-1-4-1 according to MLS tactics expert Matt Doyle.



First half network map, where line thickness represents the connection between players.

Bradley (#4) sat right between the centerbacks, and connected possession with seemingly everyone else on the field. Bradley is getting unfairly criticized when Jones (#13) and Kljestan (#10) aren't really linking-up play.

Also LOL at the basically invisible right side. It's pretty damning when the right back and right wing have little to no connection.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21025 posts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:04 pm to
Yeah that right side is pretty awful. Bedoya was pretty invisible out there but having little help from Zusi compounded the problem
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