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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:25 pm to
Posted by joey barton
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:25 pm to
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The huge problem with Jones is his penchant for getting caught in possession against quick teams.


That's partly because he'll do borderline insane shite to try to work his way out of tough situations, e.g., the entire first half of the Costa Rican disaster. I didn't see that tonight in any of the few situations where he was under any significant amount of pressure.
Posted by Toby Flenderson
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:26 pm to
I was at work until the 70th so I caught the two goals but missed the Dempsey injury, the starting lineup, and anything else that happened before then. If it's not too much of pain could someone give their thoughts on how we looked?

From what I saw Jozy was taking some heavy touches when he was given pretty good passes and couldn't ever really keep possession. I was hoping he could get a goal to get some confidence after this season at Sunderland.
Posted by thenry712
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:28 pm to
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@PCarrESPN 1m
Yes, it was Azerbaijan, but Jozy Altidore had 52 touches tonight, his most in a #USMNT game in the last 2 years.


That's also really promising for Jozy and our midfield, considering his touches were almost all outside the attacking third.

He had a few decent runs to the touchline, and drew a good number of fouls while holding the ball.

ETA:
quote:

Klinsmann: "We have to excuse certain elements because of the conditions." Was referring to the wind. #USMNT
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 11:30 pm
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:33 pm to
Yeah hard to judge Jones under little to no pressure...
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:33 pm to
i thought jozy played really well. i agree that the wind was ridiculous and that it should be taken into account. it looked nearly impossible to have any success with any balls in the air.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:34 pm to
So AZE only had one shot on goal.

How much of that was because of our outstanding defense and how much because of AZE's putrid offense?
Posted by etm512
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 11:46 pm to
Yes
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:03 am to
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. If it's not too much of pain could someone give their thoughts on how we looked?



We started with a midfield diamond and DMB at left fullback. Besler was uncharacteristically bad the first half. Wondo immediately missed two golden opportunities off set pieces from Zusi. Bedoya looked good and Johnson looked good when he made runs from fullback, but his touch kept letting him down. Jozy reverted to bad-Jozy at times and kept dropping deep. Bradley was bad. DMB was atrocious.

Davis, Chandler, and Gonzo came in at halftime for Zusi, DMB, and Cameron. Bradley stayed bad, Jozy fell out of the match, and Davis should have won a penalty. Then Bacon came on for Wondo, Yedlin came in for Johnson, and Mix came in for Bedoya. Then you started watching.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:15 am to
Everything about our attack just seemed listless with Bradley playing bad, no Dempsey, and... brace yourself...

no Donovan.


With the way Azeri was bunkering, it probably wouldn't have mattered but, until Mix came in, there was nobody who seemed confident in taking on defenders with the ball.
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 12:17 am
Posted by Bho
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:15 am to
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Are we really going to try to put a really attacking lineup on the field in Brazil?

I may need to get a keg if that's the case.


From all indications Jurgy wants to go all out attack on Ghana and get 3 points. Make sure you get a keg big enough for all of us.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:18 am to
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Matthew Tomaszewicz ?@shinguardian 12m
Asked three players who played if they were told/instructed to move or go to certain areas to find space. All said no.



Hooray for tactics
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:31 am to
I'm so glad we are going back to this "JK knows and coaches zero tactics" meme right before the World Cup. It's so helpful and grown up.
Lets just forget everything that's happened over the past two years.
Posted by Bho
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:33 am to
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I'm so glad we are going back to this "JK knows and coaches zero tactics" meme right before the World Cup. It's so helpful and grown up.
Lets just forget everything that's happened over the past two years.



Ray Hudson showered Klinsmann with compliments including his tactics, on the Football Show yesterday morning. It's kind of like the Jermaine Jones gets a yellos every match. People say these things because they hear others say it......true or not.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:36 am to
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The problem there was that Jones is not a liability there.


Exactly .Jones was set up playing as an anchor man with Dempsey out and Bradley tryin to push higher up. I thought he played very well. I still expect a 4-2-3-1 in the world cup so we will try to outflank opponents but a 4-4-2 wouldn't be a bad lineup against Portugal or Ghana style teams
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 12:39 am
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:45 am to
Finished up the game recently. Overall meh.

Howard did a good job standing there I guess. I think the wind took some of his long balls a little off course. He should have been given a lawn chair though.

Defenders:

Besler was a lot less reliable than I hoped. He had a near disaster of a giveaway.

DMB was not so hot, but I do not know if his play will work against superior opponents. He is a decent WCQ guy. I think Fabian-Chandler-Besler-Cameron should be our back four in some order.

I still think Yedlin is a tourist for Brazil. Ronaldo and Reus probably have been masturbating to his call-up because he is not ready to even try to defend those guys.

Midfielders:

Jones slipped and almost fricked up once, but he was really disciplined tonight. He showed that he could work with Bradley. I think the wind may have helped him because he did not attempt any wild 50 yard in the air through balls.

Bradley was off. It happens, but it cannot happen in this diamond. Our star players having a bad day should not result in panic mode during a spell of bad form.

Mix was titty skin. Thenry was right. I think I might want this dude in the 11. He was not afraid to shoot, he is creative as frick, and his hair is great. I know he only had a brief appearance, but he played pretty much perfectly. The mop-up goal was a nice bonus.

Davis had a couple nice moments, but I only want him on the pitch if the substitution rules are like hockey or basketball. I was pissed when he did not let it rip with his right foot. Somewhere, Arjen Robben was smiling at that.

Forwards:

I loved Jozy outside the 18. I liked Wondo's movement in the 18. Jozy maintained possession, but Wondo lost it, yet Wondo kept poking through holes in the defense. There should be a way to combine these two players to create our starting striker. Plus, it would open up a much needed roster.

Other notes:

Despite Azerbaijan staying behind the ball, they were absolute arse at defending set pieces, but that does not take away from our service, which was pretty good. The Johannsson goal was so bad in terms of defense that I did not get excited. Pepe would literally cut the throats of his teammates if they defended like that at the World Cup.

I think the most valuable thing out of this friendly is that we know the diamond should not be used, despite the Jones staying back and playing his role. Let's go back to the 4-2-3-1 because this team will get exposed unless Bradley is Lex Luthor or better.

I still do not really see where the goals will come from (yes, I know Dempsey was not that there, but he tends to be invisible most of the game for the US). Zusi better swing in a frick ton of free kicks for us to have a chance.

Hopeful lineup against Turkey (without the LegenD ):

Howard
Frankenstein(RB)-Cameron-Besler-Fabian(LB)
Bradley-Jones
Zusi-Mix-Demspey
Jozy
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:46 am to
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People say these things because they hear others say it......true or not.

It scares me when I hear it from Bastian and Philipp Lahm.
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 12:47 am
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81386 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:56 am to
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People say these things because they hear others say it......true or not.


Jurgen has never been tactically strong. I've realized that well before he was coaching the US.


ETA: How ironic is it that uway and Bho are acting as if the "Jurgen is not tactically sound" is merely a meme but they both swear by the whole "Landon is out of shape" theory?
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 12:59 am
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 1:09 am to
I dont expect us to play that 4-4-2 in the world cup at all, but it did point out how much less of a defensive liability Davis is than Donovan
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 1:15 am to
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but it did point out how much less of a defensive liability Davis is than Donovan

Davis can surely track down Nani or Ronaldo with his pace.

In terms of the World Cup stage, Davis has the quality of a specialist. I would be scared to see him get him getting serious minutes.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27239 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 1:45 am to
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Davis can surely track down Nani or Ronaldo with his pace


it isn't the job of a wide mid to track down wingers

do u really expect portugal to run a 4-2-4 vs us?
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