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UEFA head calling for 40 team world cup

Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:20 am
Posted by Tigerstark
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:20 am
Not a fan.

I liked the move from 24 to 32, but 32 is exactly right, imo.

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EFA chief Michel Platini wants the World Cup finals expanded to 40 teams from 2018 to allow more African and Asian countries into the tournament without reducing the number of European nations represented.



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ormer France international Platini, widely regarded as the most likely successor to Swiss Blatter in the FIFA job, said by his own calculations that adding eight more teams would require extending the tournament by only three days.


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We can add two African, two Asiatic, two American, one Oceania and one from Europe."
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:21 am to
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:25 am to
Another guaranteed group stage match? why not, I'm all for it.
Posted by Tigerstark
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:28 am to
Ok, so how do you reduce it from 40?

the only way to go is to 32 - and then what, only 8 teams don't make the knockout round? Stupid.

Or do you try and reduce it from 40 to 16? so some second place group teams don't make it? Or 40 down to 20 (top two of each group), with the top 4 group winners getting a bye? So you get rewarded for having an easy group, which is alrdady its own reward?

Its just ridiculous. 32 divides easily into the 16 required for an even knock-out round. Top two of each group.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:32 am to
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Ok, so how do you reduce it from 40?

the only way to go is to 32 - and then what, only 8 teams don't make the knockout round? Stupid.

Or do you try and reduce it from 40 to 16? so some second place group teams don't make it? Or 40 down to 20 (top two of each group), with the top 4 group winners getting a bye? So you get rewarded for having an easy group, which is alrdady its own reward?

Its just ridiculous. 32 divides easily into the 16 required for an even knock-out round. Top two of each group.


Top 2 teams make it out of a 5 team group. I racked my brain for hours trying to come up with this.
Posted by Tigerstark
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:48 am to
5 team groups still doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, but if they are going to do it, it makes the most sense out of all of the options and probably the only way to do it. Glad it took you so long to come up with it.

Seems to eliminate the entire way the World Cup is set up right now though, with the different pots trying to match teams from the different regions and create some semblance of competitive balance, even if it doesn't really do it.

There are going to be some really weak 5 team groups, and some really devastating ones too.

Unless a group with Switzerland, Honduras, Cape Verde, New Zealand/Jordan and Chile sounds awesome to you? Though most likely Oceanna will be put into the US/Concacaf Pot so that we can't draw the worst of the worst.


This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 9:49 am
Posted by tigerfan88
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:50 am to
This is a stupid idea, it waters down what's already a fairly watered down process in qualification. Teams would only meaningful games every other year. Platini is a moron, he's just pandering for votes, and remember this is the same guy responsible for giving Qatar the 2022 WC for political reasons
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 9:52 am to
I wait four years to watch the USA compete in the greatest sporting event on the planet. I'm not going to complain if we get one more guaranteed match.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 10:34 am to
Also remember that the extra match would be against a 33-40 team that we should beat...
Posted by joey barton
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 10:42 am to
Would Qatar even be able to accommodate 40 teams?

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said by his own calculations


I can imagine Platini sitting down with a calendar, a calculator, and a map trying to figure this one out.
Posted by S
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 11:05 am to
he seems more like an abbacus guy IMO
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 11:14 am to
Platini is going to be so much worse than blatter
Posted by joey barton
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 11:16 am to
Posted by Tigerstark
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 12:35 pm to
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Also remember that the extra match would be against a 33-40 team that we should beat...


Not necessarily.

Africa probably gets its own pod.

We (concacaf) will get stuck with Oceanna, maybe Asia? Either way, the way they make the pods won't necessarily help us.

Five teams also eliminates some of the luster from an upset in the group stages as a Honduras upset of England provides another game to come down for Honduras (i.e. Honduras probably isn't beating Egypt or wheover else is in their gruop) and another game for England to catch up.

So this benefits the stronger (read - UEFA teams) so that they can survive one upset more easily.



Posted by AUin02
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 12:38 pm to
Protractor and a slide rule no doubt.
Posted by j1897
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 12:49 pm to
San Marino and Vatican city should get a playoff for the Country-within-a-country spot.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 12:54 pm to
WHY YOU HATIN ON LESOTHO. And Hong Kong, to a lesser extent.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:13 pm to
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Top 2 teams make it out of a 5 team group. I racked my brain for hours trying to come up with this.

Don't hurt yourself
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:18 pm to
This is a great idea! The only thing the World Cup is missing is teams like Papa New Guinea and Seychelles in the competition.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:25 pm to
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This is a great idea! The only thing the World Cup is missing is teams like Papa New Guinea and Seychelles in the competition.


Randy, I haven't seen either of those teams play. Will you post their FIFA (VG, not real life) rosters and player rankings, so I can get an idea of their quality?
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