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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:42 pm to mynamebowl
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:42 pm to mynamebowl
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I was going to type out a long response to explain how wrong you are with this shite but it's useless. Good god, if you actually believe this, then there's no helping you.
Would you consider Messi, Lampart, Scholes, Terry more athletic than anyone we have on our team? I just don't understand why people act like an elite athlete in one sport automatically translate into another.
ETA: Eddie Johnson was plenty athletic, but that doesn't mean that he's not a very mediocre player.
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:48 pm to FunkasaurusReb
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Messi,
Very quick and has unreal balance. He is a very good athlete.
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, Lampart, Scholes, Terry
Timmy Chandler would win a combine event against all of them in a purely athletic sense. So would Yedlin, Bradley, Jozy and a number of others.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:51 pm to glassman
Really late and I'm sure it's already been said.
But the variable in the "international soccer success" argument isn't athletic ability, it's training/coaching methods/modern soccer infrastructure in the US.
But the variable in the "international soccer success" argument isn't athletic ability, it's training/coaching methods/modern soccer infrastructure in the US.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:53 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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But the variable in the "international soccer success" argument isn't athletic ability, it's training/coaching methods/modern soccer infrastructure in the US.
Just read the two previous pages.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:01 pm to GeauxTigers2020
What day would you suggest?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:01 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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But the variable in the "international soccer success" argument isn't athletic ability, it's training/coaching methods/modern soccer infrastructure in the US.
Everybody on this board realizes this except for a few stubborn outliers.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:03 pm to cwil177
That's what I figured
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:28 pm to Ex-Popcorn
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her tweet is accurate...bash it all you want, but it's correct.
If Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook didn't play basketball as kids and, instead, spent the same time training as Michael Bradley did...day for day...they would be LIGHT YEARS better players than bradley. Faster, stronger, quicker, etc. They are just better athletes.
If Dwyane Wade didn't play basketball but instead played soccer, he'd be 1000x times a better striker than Altidore (not saying much).
In each age group from age 5 and up, there are literally tens of thousands of kids in America who are WAY better athletes than the soccer players we ultimately will be putting on the pitch.
The hope is that this will change over time...but it won't until the MLS gets an inner-city rep and can pay the average player millions of dollars.
I guess this explains why the fastest team with the most black people always wins the World Cup.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:35 pm to ohiovol
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I guess this explains why the fastest team with the most black people always wins the World Cup.
Ghana wins every year, beating the Ivory Coast in the Finals.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:39 pm to glassman
It's obviously all about talent identification at young ages and coaching them up.
Why does Jamaica dominate the sprints? (Aide from potential doping)
Because they screen all kids and take the fastest ones and train them year-round.
But it's silly to think you wouldn't get better results with a better talent pool. Good luck figuring out how to make soccer "cool" in the hood.
Why does Jamaica dominate the sprints? (Aide from potential doping)
Because they screen all kids and take the fastest ones and train them year-round.
But it's silly to think you wouldn't get better results with a better talent pool. Good luck figuring out how to make soccer "cool" in the hood.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:45 pm to oauron
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:47 pm to BigEdLSU
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. Good luck figuring out how to make soccer "cool" in the hood.
There you go. It is the way out of poverty sport for almost every country in the world. Here it is football and basketball.
What Americans fail to realize, is that the technical and mental aspects of soccer have to be ingrained at such a young age. It can only happen in certain areas of the world. It isn't a fluke that only a select few of European and South American teams have won the biggest prize.
Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Italy, Spain, France, Germany and England(lol) are the only countries to win the world's ultimate trophy.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:09 pm to glassman
As far as I know, track is the only sport that doesn't require the 10,000 hour rule. You're either fast or you aren't. However, I know that the kids we coach have a window between 6-9 to learn proper form for running.
It's not impossible to correct your form later, just much harder.
To anyone not familiar with the 10,000 hr rule, it's pretty much accepted that to compete at a world class level in sports you need at least 10,000 hrs of intense training.
That's three hours a day with no days off for ten years.
So you have 16-17 yr olds hitting that level in other places but not in the states.
I don't doubt soccer has a skill window that is best to teach kids certain things at certain times, but out of curiousity, if anyone knows those windows, would you expand for the curious ones like me?
Tia
It's not impossible to correct your form later, just much harder.
To anyone not familiar with the 10,000 hr rule, it's pretty much accepted that to compete at a world class level in sports you need at least 10,000 hrs of intense training.
That's three hours a day with no days off for ten years.
So you have 16-17 yr olds hitting that level in other places but not in the states.
I don't doubt soccer has a skill window that is best to teach kids certain things at certain times, but out of curiousity, if anyone knows those windows, would you expand for the curious ones like me?
Tia
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:14 pm to cwil177
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Anyone else bothered by the fact that ESPN hires people who are so fricking dumb?
she does have a masters from northwestern
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:15 pm to BigEdLSU
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So you have 16-17 yr olds hitting that level in other places but not in the states.
In Europe and South America you have kids hitting that a lot earlier than 16 or 17. From 8 or 9 they are training twice a day with school and diets that are constructed for them to succeed. They ain't eating fricking chicken nuggets.
ETA: My point is that the rest of the world treats this game so much more seriously than we do. It is their focus, their one thing they want to be great in. It shows.
Also, they aren't being coached my gung ho dads. They are being coached by seriously great, certified coaches.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:24 pm to glassman
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In Europe and South America you have kids hitting that a lot earlier than 16 or 17. From 8 or 9 they are training twice a day with school and diets that are constructed for them to succeed.
in south america?
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They ain't eating fricking chicken nuggets
yeah i'd imagine in most favelas (that produce a ton of talent), a reliable flow of chicken nuggets would be an improvement
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm talking kids in academies. Sure there are some kids from places that come through later in life.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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in south america?
Of course. My son's club team has kids from Honduras that were fed and trained for free. Now they have to pay to play here.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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she does have a masters from northwestern
Does this invalidate the fact that she's dumb as frick in regards to a sport she played on the D1 level? I don't think so.
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