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re: tOfficial 2019 Women's World Cup Thread
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:28 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:28 pm to crazy4lsu
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It was a reckless challenge
I disagree with that was well. It wasn't a wild swing, there was little force behind it, the US player just got there a split second earlier.
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:29 pm to pvilleguru
Yep.
More mis-timed than reckless.
More mis-timed than reckless.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:30 pm to crazy4lsu
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It's a foul to go high with the studs showing everywhere else on the field.
It wasn't even a challenge on the player she was trying to kick the ball.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:31 pm to crazy4lsu
Time to end all the arguing.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:31 pm to RandySavage
Again, in what world would a foul not be given for a high challenge, anywhere else on the field? More often than not, refs have entirely different definitions for what a foul is inside the box than outside the box. In this case, this would have been a foul anywhere on the field. If you go high with the studs showing, you have to win the ball cleanly, or else you run the risk of committing an offense.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:34 pm to RandySavage
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It wasn't even a challenge on the player she was trying to kick the ball.
And?
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:34 pm to crazy4lsu
Man, I don't think that's a foul at midfield either.
There's little, and possible no contact. It definitely didn't impede the player's movement to play the ball afterwards. It looks like she knows she lost control of the ball so decides to go down after taking a few steps.
You just see it called more often at midfield because the ref subconsciously knows it won't lead to a post-match controversy.
There's little, and possible no contact. It definitely didn't impede the player's movement to play the ball afterwards. It looks like she knows she lost control of the ball so decides to go down after taking a few steps.
You just see it called more often at midfield because the ref subconsciously knows it won't lead to a post-match controversy.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:35 pm to pvilleguru
In the box, with the ball going away from goal? It was a silly, reckless challenge. That the player could have been more careless doesn't make the challenge any less ill-advised.
This is called a foul everywhere else on the field, time and again. A player attempts to make a play on the ball, but is late and catches the man. In fact, it's super rare for refs to swallow the whistle on challenges like these in particular.
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the US player just got there a split second earlier.
This is called a foul everywhere else on the field, time and again. A player attempts to make a play on the ball, but is late and catches the man. In fact, it's super rare for refs to swallow the whistle on challenges like these in particular.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:35 pm to crazy4lsu
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Again, in what world would a foul not be given for a high challenge, anywhere else on the field?
This is what i'm trying to figure out.
High challenge, studs up, late, no ball contact.
It wasn't the hardest foul I've ever seen, but it was a foul plain a simple. Unfortunate for Spain that it occurred in the box.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:36 pm to crazy4lsu
That's kinda how I see it. The contact wasn't much, but her spikes were shown and did catch her high up on the leg. Probably what the VAR showed.
And yes, I would be pissed had we gotten called for a similar penalty and would be claiming a FIFA conspiracy against us.
And yes, I would be pissed had we gotten called for a similar penalty and would be claiming a FIFA conspiracy against us.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:36 pm to pvilleguru
Yea I know I’m slower than most here too
But also said that she believed she was fouled double digit amount of times
But also said that she believed she was fouled double digit amount of times
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:37 pm to Athos
Rose is great
Just not great to look at.
Downvote away!
Just not great to look at.
Downvote away!
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:39 pm to BlackCoffeeKid
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Man, I don't think that's a foul at midfield either.
I honestly don't know what games you people are watching. I've seen straight red cards given for similar challenges, like the Ricardo Clark one I just mentioned. I rarely, if ever, see refs swallow the whistle for these sorts of challenges. The losing player almost always gets a foul called on them, regardless of their intent. Again, if you go high with any challenge, you run the risk of committing a foul.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:39 pm to crazy4lsu
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In the box, with the ball going away from goal? It
That has nothing to do with this. I don't care where it was or what way the ball was going.
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It was a silly, reckless challenge.
It was not "without thinking or caring about the consequences of an action".
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:41 pm to crazy4lsu
It was a stupid challenge in the circumstances and gave the ref a decision to make, no arguing there.
And we're splitting hairs here but I don't think there was enough in it for a foul.
If you want to say dangerous play for having a high boot and give an indirect free kick then go ahead.
And we're splitting hairs here but I don't think there was enough in it for a foul.
If you want to say dangerous play for having a high boot and give an indirect free kick then go ahead.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:42 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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This is what i'm trying to figure out.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
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It wasn't the hardest foul I've ever seen, but it was a foul plain a simple. Unfortunate for Spain that it occurred in the box.
Pretty much. The defender wasn't malicious, though she was reckless. No need to challenge when the ball is going away from you, away from goal, with the opposing playing going perpendicular to play on her weakside.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:47 pm to pvilleguru
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It was not "without thinking or caring about the consequences of an action".
High challenges with the studs showing are almost by default reckless. High challenges are given called fouls literally everywhere on the field. Was the Spanish player unlucky? Sure. But high challenges are reckless almost 100% of the time. I have no clue how you would characterize a high challenge as "not-reckless" when the studs are showing. High challenges definitely show a player has "acted with complete disregard of the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent." I don't know what world you people are living in if high challenges aren't considered reckless, generally.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:49 pm to The Spleen
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And yes, I would be pissed had we gotten called for a similar penalty and would be claiming a FIFA conspiracy against us.
I can see the case for being aggrieved, but these people saying it isn't a foul are retarded. High challenges are almost always called fouls; it's rare when they aren't. It would have been called a foul everywhere on the field.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:50 pm to crazy4lsu
Changing topics completely, but I hope Jill and the coaching staff understand that Pinoe had a shite game despite getting WOTM with the two penalties.
We have to put Press or Pugh on that wing or France is going to destroy Dunn on that left flank.
We have to put Press or Pugh on that wing or France is going to destroy Dunn on that left flank.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:50 pm to crazy4lsu
The absolute worst case scenario from that challenge would be a light scratch, and that would completely depend on how quickly the attacker was moving. No one was ever in any danger from what the defender did.
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