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This board is way too negative re: Berhalter
Posted on 11/29/22 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 11/29/22 at 6:57 pm
Is he my favorite manager? No, not even close.
Has he been terrible this World Cup? No, not even close.
We just went through the entire group stage and only conceded 1 goal off of a PK. Being able to create an organized, stingy defense is a big part of advancing in an international tournament. Look at 2018, champions France went through with 3 goals scored and 1 allowed. Not saying we're about to win the World Cup but it definitely is worth taking a look at.
2002 - 6 GA
2006 - 6 GA
2010 - 3 GA
2014 - 4 GA
2018 -
2022 - 1 GA
With the 3rd youngest team in the tournament, even including 35 year old Tim Ream.
If we want to advance past this next round, we will need to find more attack, but this group stage was absolutely a success and you just cannot blame the coach when it goes poorly and give credit to the players when it goes well. He's had a great plan defensively for 3 games, and if not for Zimmerman trying to murder someone, we get through with 0 GA.
The negatives?
- Going defensive too early in matches when we have a lead.
- Waiting too long to sub and then making questionable subs (Moore, Morris, no Gio)
- I also don't really love some of his roster choices. What is it that Haji Wright does well? Look big?
But if you seriously give anything less than a B-, you're just being a hater.
As of now, I'd prefer to freshen things up for next cycle, but he's another win or two from earning more time.
Has he been terrible this World Cup? No, not even close.
We just went through the entire group stage and only conceded 1 goal off of a PK. Being able to create an organized, stingy defense is a big part of advancing in an international tournament. Look at 2018, champions France went through with 3 goals scored and 1 allowed. Not saying we're about to win the World Cup but it definitely is worth taking a look at.
2002 - 6 GA
2006 - 6 GA
2010 - 3 GA
2014 - 4 GA
2018 -
2022 - 1 GA
With the 3rd youngest team in the tournament, even including 35 year old Tim Ream.
If we want to advance past this next round, we will need to find more attack, but this group stage was absolutely a success and you just cannot blame the coach when it goes poorly and give credit to the players when it goes well. He's had a great plan defensively for 3 games, and if not for Zimmerman trying to murder someone, we get through with 0 GA.
The negatives?
- Going defensive too early in matches when we have a lead.
- Waiting too long to sub and then making questionable subs (Moore, Morris, no Gio)
- I also don't really love some of his roster choices. What is it that Haji Wright does well? Look big?
But if you seriously give anything less than a B-, you're just being a hater.
As of now, I'd prefer to freshen things up for next cycle, but he's another win or two from earning more time.
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Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:05 pm to hendersonshands
We had one of the easiest groups in the World Cup and only managed 2 goals. So far, he has met expectations, barely, which was to get out of our group.
I don’t expect this team to go any further with his tactics and players he seems to favor. At least we have a good GK if we go 0-0 in knockout and have to do a shootout.
I don’t expect this team to go any further with his tactics and players he seems to favor. At least we have a good GK if we go 0-0 in knockout and have to do a shootout.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:05 pm to hendersonshands
He’s not as bad as we make him out to be but his subs are seriously bad.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:09 pm to SUB
quote:
We had one of the easiest groups in the World Cup
LOL. By nearly every single soccer pundit from every corner of the world said that our group was the hardest.
England was ranked 5th, Wales 19 and Iran 20
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:09 pm to WicKed WayZ
It really wasn’t the hardest group. Not even close 
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:13 pm to hendersonshands
Agree with most of what you said and besides no Gio and late subs overall I thought he was doing okay.
He almost lost us the game today, invited the loss, because of his terrible subs and match strategy. He is paid to manage the players and game and he did a poor job today in the second half with it all on the line.
He almost lost us the game today, invited the loss, because of his terrible subs and match strategy. He is paid to manage the players and game and he did a poor job today in the second half with it all on the line.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:13 pm to SUB
This is what I’m talking about. None of the teams we played were bad, but no it wasn’t a group of death. We also brought a super inexperienced young team and they’ve barely made any mistakes.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:16 pm to metallica81788
That was a negative that I’ve said about games against Wales and Iran, he went defensive too early by bringing on Acosta who can shithouse and kill counters but he offers nothing going forward.
It’s ok to also acknowledge that even though some things were bad, overall it was very successful and we still have everything in front of us.
It’s ok to also acknowledge that even though some things were bad, overall it was very successful and we still have everything in front of us.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:16 pm to hendersonshands
It was disappointing to see him park the bus against Iran. We showed in the first half that they're not even in our league. I'm not sure why he wanted us to play scarped in the second half.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:21 pm to whatkindanameiskirby
The fact also remains that since Berhalter has taken over, the US is 20-0-1 when leading at halftime.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:22 pm to whatkindanameiskirby
I mean, “parking the bus” implies an entire game strategy. See Costa Rica two World Cups ago.
We played conservative in the last 30 mins because we were protecting a lead, and it worked.
We didn’t capitalize on the counter opportunities bc Christian, Dest, and Weston (and to some extent Sargent) were out, and we employed the likes of Haji Wright to “hold up” play. Unfortunately he mostly failed bc he isn’t good.
Another attacking player like Jedi was gassed as well bc he ran more than likely anyone else on the pitch. We didn’t have to squad in the last quarter of the game to play like we did in the 1st half.
We played conservative in the last 30 mins because we were protecting a lead, and it worked.
We didn’t capitalize on the counter opportunities bc Christian, Dest, and Weston (and to some extent Sargent) were out, and we employed the likes of Haji Wright to “hold up” play. Unfortunately he mostly failed bc he isn’t good.
Another attacking player like Jedi was gassed as well bc he ran more than likely anyone else on the pitch. We didn’t have to squad in the last quarter of the game to play like we did in the 1st half.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:22 pm to hendersonshands
No doubt that his system has yielded excellent defensive results from a young group of players (excluding Ream who has been the key to the backline), but we were lucky to face England at a time when a draw was almost as good as a win for them, and Iran and Wales aren't exactly offensive juggernauts.
The issue is that all of this:
Made us NEED to have clean score sheets to get points, and there is no way we should expect to keep clean sheets or win shootouts in the knockouts.
Nobody should expect a deep run with this team, but we should expect the manager to do better than Bierhalter has done. He is plain lucky that some of those clear chances didn't go in.
The issue is that all of this:
quote:
- Going defensive too early in matches when we have a lead.
- Waiting too long to sub and then making questionable subs (Moore, Morris, no Gio)
- I also don't really love some of his roster choices. What is it that Haji Wright does well? Look big?
Made us NEED to have clean score sheets to get points, and there is no way we should expect to keep clean sheets or win shootouts in the knockouts.
Nobody should expect a deep run with this team, but we should expect the manager to do better than Bierhalter has done. He is plain lucky that some of those clear chances didn't go in.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:23 pm to hendersonshands
We scored 2 goals and gave up 1 in 3 games in probably the weakest group with our most talented roster ever. He absolutely has no clue what to do with this talent.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:23 pm to hendersonshands
B- is exactly what I'd give him. He's just good enough to win tough matches on player talent. His subs are straight up booty, though, and he's lacking in "killer instinct" as a manager and managing a roster with several straight up killers on it.
Defensively, he's an asset. But that won't win matches moving forward. We have to play to win. Not play to stay in the tournament. Safe shite won't work.
Defensively, he's an asset. But that won't win matches moving forward. We have to play to win. Not play to stay in the tournament. Safe shite won't work.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:25 pm to Dijkstra
quote:
B-
Pretty sure I gave him the same grade months ago
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:25 pm to hendersonshands
quote:This has been the biggest issue. It is indefensible, imo.
- Waiting too long to sub and then making questionable subs (Moore, Morris, no Gio)
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:29 pm to Earnest_P
quote:
but we were lucky to face England at a time when a draw was almost as good as a win for them,
Here's the bullshite I'm talking about. This is utter nonsense, and I can't believe anyone thinks they were playing for a draw.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:34 pm to WhoDatNC
quote:
We scored 2 goals and gave up 1 in 3 games in probably the weakest group with our most talented roster ever. He absolutely has no clue what to do with this talent.
Overall a very talented, but young squad.
Going into the tournament EVERYBODY believed our weakest spots were striker, center back, and possibly keeper. So we deployed a system where an MLS centerback and a 35 year old who's barely played internationally over the last couple of years with a keeper who's a backup at his own club posted 2 shutouts and only gave up one PK goal.
In the situation we're in, the safer way of advancing is to be organized and killer defensively rather than trying to overcome the black hole at 9.
We'll see how we do against Netherlands. If he gets it wrong then his grade will drop, but I'm willing to see what his plan is.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:34 pm to hendersonshands
Every first half of these group matches we've seen the potential with this squad, and then we see how he impedes progress with his decisions.
I thank him for where he's brought the team, but I think the talent has surpassed his abilities as a manager. I hope we find a suitable replacement for the next cycle.
I thank him for where he's brought the team, but I think the talent has surpassed his abilities as a manager. I hope we find a suitable replacement for the next cycle.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:36 pm to hendersonshands
quote:
ere's the bull shite I'm talking about. This is utter nonsense, and I can't believe anyone thinks they were playing for a draw.
They weren't at the start, but they absolutely took their foot off the gas in a way they wouldn't have if they needed a win. It's not bullshite just because it counters your thesis.
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