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re: The passion of U.S. soccer fans seems fake...

Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by svb
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:07 pm to
I'm not even sure what to say about this thread... Just seems very ignorant.

I guess they should try to copy the fan cultures of other American sports instead of copying the culture of the sport they are going to watch.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:11 pm to
I'm not hating on it because it isn't American. I'm simply saying it is odd because it isn't how Americans usually act at sporting events. Which is why it seems forced.

P.S... Saying "'Merica" makes you sound like a fricking idiot.
Posted by PTBob
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:12 pm to
No
Posted by LL012697
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:17 pm to
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I'm simply saying it is odd because it isn't how Americans usually act at sporting events.


The way people act has to do with the sport being watched. People don't act the same way at the Masters as they do at the Super Bowl. Are golf fans trying too hard? Or could it be that they're reacting in a way that's conducive to the structure and generally accepted culture of the game?
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:18 pm to
This thread makes you sound like an idiot.
Posted by Anfield Road
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:18 pm to
American golf fans should stop copying the Scots with their hoidy toidy etiquette.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 8:19 pm
Posted by svb
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:19 pm to
And using t shirt cannons and blaring music through the PA system during the game isn't how soccer fans around the world act. And that too would seem forced in any other country in the world.
Posted by vuvuzela
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:19 pm to
Fake it til you make it my friend.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:22 pm to
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Are golf fans trying too hard? Or could it be that they're reacting in a way that's conducive to the structure and generally accepted culture of the game?


Here's the problem with that. The Masters environment is entirely different than that of the British, or the Humana Classic, or the Players Championship.

Each has their own identity. I think it would HELP US Soccer to create their own identity. Seems like Portland and Seattle have done that.
Posted by PTBob
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:23 pm to
No it's not ENTIRELY different .
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

And using t shirt cannons and blaring music through the PA system during the game isn't how soccer fans around the world act. And that too would seem forced in any other country in the world.



+1
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:26 pm to
It is. But whatever.
Posted by PTBob
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:27 pm to
Ok
Posted by BeYou
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:29 pm to
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Yeah, frick these soccer fans for trying to create a tough atmosphere.


Posted by LL012697
Texas
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:29 pm to
It's not entirely different at all....if it were you'd have morbidly obese, drunk fans of Rory McIlroy stabbing fans of Phil Mickelson in the parking lot at Augusta. There are some differences I'll give you that, but then again there are some differences between American soccer fans and European ones
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:32 pm to
If you don't think the galleries at the Masters are different than the US Open or the Humana Challenge, then there's nothing I can do.

We'll just agree to disagree.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

I'm not hating on it because it isn't American. I'm simply saying it is odd because it isn't how Americans usually act at sporting events. Which is why it seems forced.



Sounds just like American fans cheering at the Ryder Cup or any sport in the Olympics. This is what American fans do when cheering for America in international competitions.
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:38 pm to
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Well, for example... they are doing all of this singing and whatnot in the stands right now...

No fans in any other sport in America do that kind of thing.

And it isn't like the United States has a long, rich soccer tradition where all of these things are old tradition that has been done for ages and it's just being passed down.

It seems more like an "astroturf" movement rather than a "grassroots" movement...


It's called "passion". If anything, American soccer fans are just as genuine if not more genuine than many others. Obviously, I'm biased, but it's not like we have a winning tradition as you've pointed out. This isn't the NBA or NFL. Why do we need to Americanize it? Yeah, it's still new and seems strange to outsiders, but get real. It's not like supporting soccer is the "popular" thing to do. These people traveled from all over to support their country. They have chant leaders from all over. Of course you're going to hear chants from other places because there were volunteers from all over to help with the chants.

Just because it's America doesn't mean we need to fall into shitty arse American ways of support. We did that for 100 years and saw little to no interest. The more these groups like American Outlaws grow and show this support, the more people will take notice. It's a lot easier to want to play in front of excited, chanting fans.

It's a chance to qualify for the World Cup with a home win against our biggest rival. That shite is real.
This post was edited on 9/10/13 at 8:39 pm
Posted by LL012697
Texas
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:40 pm to
I admitted they were different, just not as different as you're claiming.....would you say that the gallery at the US Open is closer to the Masters/British open or closer to the crowd at an NFL game? I've been to soccer games in Europe and games in Seattle and they're not as similar as you'd think, but they're closer to each other than they are to crowds of other sports, and rightfully so
Posted by emoney
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 9/10/13 at 8:40 pm to
I know some of these Crew fans, and believe me, many of them are not your typical American fan. And frankly, many of them scare me.
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