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re: Soccer Fans: Please Be More Welcoming to New Fans.

Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:49 am to
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:49 am to
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There was one team who's coach would have one of their players stand by our goal for the entire game and they would just try to kick the ball up to that player.



That coach should be kicked in the face by a Ghanaian midfielder.

As a youth soccer coach, that kind of anti-development pisses me off to no end.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31644 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:52 am to
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The questions aren't honestly interrogative. It's almost rhetorical like, "wait you can have a tie"? Or, "why isn't there video evidence" and for god sakes.... the diving (simulation) issue.

Someone new to the sport might not know these are rhetorical questions.

Now, if someone is breaking sports etiquette by asking them in the 90th min, I get your frustration.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52678 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:52 am to
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As a youth soccer coach, that kind of anti-development pisses me off to no end.


Oh yeah no one on that team played once we started playing full sided games and offsides came into play. I think we were 10.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19699 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:53 am to
I honestly don't get what's so difficult for people to get about offside.

It works the EXACT same way that it works in football and hockey. There's a line on the field that you can't cross before the ball.

I guess what causes the problem is that there isn't an ACTUAL line on the field.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:55 am to
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I guess what causes the problem is that there isn't an ACTUAL line on the field.


no, it's the fact that offsides can occur while the game is being played. In football, it happens during pre snap. It's much easier to see.

In soccer, it can be hard to spot if you don't understand the flow of the game and the fact that defenders are playing a game with strikers to tow the line.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83389 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:57 am to
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no, it's the fact that offsides can occur while the game is being played.


Same with hockey, but you don't see nearly anybody complaining on the MSB.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 9:59 am to
smaller area of play i guess.

When you have someone passing from 40 yards away and can't see both players on one screen it makes it hard to visualize.

At least that's my best guess.

And they used to not make it so visual either.

This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 10:01 am
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83389 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:01 am to
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smaller area of play i guess.



I would argue it's because one sport has fighting, checks into the wall, etc. and the other doesn't. I like football, so I get the violence aspect.

That's fine if you like hockey for those reasons and find soccer boring, but don't come in here with a hockey avatar or sig and make a condescending thread about how soccer is broken because of offsides.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:02 am to
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I would argue it's because one sport has fighting, checks into the wall, etc. and the other doesn't. I like football, so I get the violence aspect.


Honestly, that was my second reasoning. It's much more difficult to poke fun at hockey as it's a more aggressive sport.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83389 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:06 am to
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It's much more difficult to poke fun at hockey as it's a more aggressive sport.


And then my counter-argument for that would be why doesn't baseball get labeled as a "pansy" sport? (And I say this even thought baseball is my favorite sport)

My point is that, for whatever reason, people who don't follow soccer feel it necessary to point out how it's "gay" or "not a sport" and it honestly confounds me at how much angst someone has for a sport they claim to not care about.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52678 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:10 am to
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"not a sport"


This is what gets me. If you don't like it or think it's a "gay" sport, that's fine, but sayings it's not a sport is just ridiculous. The funny thing is if you ask someone to explain why it isn't a sport their answer is almost always " it's fricking gay" or "because it's for fricking pussies".
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:12 am to
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My point is that, for whatever reason, people who don't follow soccer feel it necessary to point out how it's "gay" or "not a sport" and it honestly confounds me at how much angst someone has for a sport they claim to not care about.


I don't try to get too upset with it because when someone says soccer is gay it really shows someone's ignorance. I mean, to truly hate a sport you don't understand is strange to me.

Most of the people who say stuff like this aren't the type of people I'm going to be spending my weekend with anyways.


This post was edited on 6/23/14 at 10:13 am
Posted by Boomtown
Member since Jan 2014
1986 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:13 am to
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Herp derp


Lebatard
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83389 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:18 am to
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I don't try to get too upset with it because when someone says soccer is gay it really shows someone's ignorance. I mean, to truly hate a sport you don't understand is strange to me.

Most of the people who say stuff like this aren't the type of people I'm going to be spending my weekend with anyways


I agree. But, back to this topic, that is why soccer fans are perceived as jerks.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31644 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:20 am to
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I don't try to get too upset with it because when someone says soccer is gay it really shows someone's ignorance. I mean, to truly hate a sport you don't understand is strange to me.


I'll say this: Soccer is the only sport I've ever watched where I enjoy the womens game as much, if not more than, the mens game. (Beach volleyball doesn't count, for obvious reasons)

I enjoyed the womens Olympic matches way more than the mens. I find the girls are way more aggressive a lot of times. And to be honest, any sport where you can see the occasional cuntpunt is okay by me.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84835 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:22 am to
Grew up in the soccer world. Lived in neighborhoods where everyone played soccer. Honestly, I've never seen the whole "soccer is gay" thing. I was never ragged for it. In fact, I didn't know this happened until I came to TD.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23689 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:22 am to
in addition, it was hard to sift through the quality posts, when the grand majority turned this board into an online equivalent of an LSU post game call in show... it was so painful to read some of the moronic comments, to get to the insightful ones...
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31644 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:25 am to
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it was so painful to read some of the moronic comments, to get to the insightful ones.

That seems to be a common Gameday issue here in general

I've never come here for an in game thread, I'm not knowledgeable enough to contribute anything remotely close to being of value.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9756 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:26 am to


I actually dread soccer becoming ever more mainstream in the USA.

It's too popular as it is already.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23689 posts
Posted on 6/23/14 at 10:32 am to
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That seems to be a common Gameday issue here in general




There's a difference and most of it is more difference of opinion, though based on a knowledge of the game... or banter between rival supporters... or Randy's warped view of the world and his contrarian point of view..
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