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Posted on 7/19/11 at 9:10 pm to hendersonshands
I suspect in that example they showed that Ronaldo was just feigning an injury/being lazy. You don't even really have to make a concerted effort to reap the benefits of it at times.
Posted on 7/19/11 at 9:13 pm to Crede15
I saw that ZM article and tried this with my terrible co-ed team. Worked.
Posted on 7/19/11 at 9:20 pm to Stewie Griffin
Would it be irresponsible of me to teach it to my middle schoolers?
Posted on 7/19/11 at 9:29 pm to hendersonshands
How terrible are they?
Posted on 7/19/11 at 9:32 pm to Stewie Griffin
Half the team hasn't played soccer before.
Posted on 7/19/11 at 9:33 pm to hendersonshands
I wouldn't unless you explain it as a desperation, late game tactic
Posted on 7/19/11 at 10:01 pm to Stewie Griffin
one problem I have with it
your striker has to sit there until the ball or another defender is at least even with him (and the slightest motion forward too early could get him flagged for offsides depending on the line ref)
when that initial pass is made to the wing, the CBs will not be idle, they can full out sprint to cover, and they most likely will
I don't think this is likely unless the CBs are stupid slow or the forward/man in the offsides position is either forgotten or feigns injury as previously stated so they appear non-issue
is it legal? yeah, but I wouldn't recommend it unless
could help you potentially get a corner too
your striker has to sit there until the ball or another defender is at least even with him (and the slightest motion forward too early could get him flagged for offsides depending on the line ref)
when that initial pass is made to the wing, the CBs will not be idle, they can full out sprint to cover, and they most likely will
I don't think this is likely unless the CBs are stupid slow or the forward/man in the offsides position is either forgotten or feigns injury as previously stated so they appear non-issue
is it legal? yeah, but I wouldn't recommend it unless
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I wouldn't unless you use it as a desperation, late game tactic
could help you potentially get a corner too
This post was edited on 7/19/11 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:38 am to hendersonshands
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hendersonshands
Your hypothetical seems to just waste a break away opportunity. Why sacrifice a player the entire match so that he may possibly be able to receive a ball which was already on a break away? The defense would be pursuing anyway, it would have to be a perfect pass to get it to the forward between the pursuing defense and the goalie, while he tries to stay onside.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 12:51 am to StTiger
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your striker has to sit there until the ball or another defender is at least even with him (and the slightest motion forward too early could get him flagged for offsides depending on the line ref)
when that initial pass is made to the wing, the CBs will not be idle, they can full out sprint to cover, and they most likely will
I don't think this is likely unless the CBs are stupid slow or the forward/man in the offsides position is either forgotten or feigns injury as previously stated so they appear non-issue
Exactly. This is why it wouldn't work. The CBs would have plenty of time to get back before the cross/centered pass.
Really the only benefit I see from it is that the striker saves energy throughout the match if you do that the whole time. But you're sacrificing by basically playing every spot on the pitch (besides the attacking third) 10 vs 11.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 2:44 am to hendersonshands
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Half the team hasn't played soccer before.
Use the bark like a dog play.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 7:11 am to hendersonshands
i don't get why teams try to score when up a goal with 20-30 min left
they should be able to theoretically pass it between the back 4 and 2 holding mids without any threat of losing it
it would be the most boring shite ever, but it would be a guaranteed victory
they should be able to theoretically pass it between the back 4 and 2 holding mids without any threat of losing it
it would be the most boring shite ever, but it would be a guaranteed victory
Posted on 7/20/11 at 7:38 am to busey
i'm not surprised no one uses that. you're pretty much playing a man down. by time you striker chases down the ball, the defense has recovered.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 7:50 am to pvilleguru
So now I'm confused about something said earlier - if you break away and are behind the defense, you can't pass it forward to another player? He has to stay behind the ball even on a break away?
Posted on 7/20/11 at 7:52 am to etm512
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So now I'm confused about something said earlier - if you break away and are behind the defense, you can't pass it forward to another player? He has to stay behind the ball even on a break away?
Correct. The pass must be even or behind. Think of it like the lateral rule in American Football.
EDIT: just to clarify....the pass can lead the attacking player but the new offside line becomes the farthest forward player. SO the pass itself can go forward, but the player must be behind or even with his teammate who is making that pass.
This post was edited on 7/20/11 at 7:57 am
Posted on 7/20/11 at 7:54 am to etm512
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So now I'm confused about something said earlier - if you break away and are behind the defense, you can't pass it forward to another player? He has to stay behind the ball even on a break away?
The same offside rule ALWAYS applies.
If it's two attackers with one defender remaining (usually the goalkeeper) the only viable pass is backwards.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 7:59 am to Sheep
Ok thanks. Starting to get into soccer a lot more but didn't know that. I thought if you broke free behind the D you could pass all over the place.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:19 am to etm512
Posted on 7/20/11 at 8:24 am to pvilleguru
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you're pretty much playing a man down. by time you striker chases down the ball, the defense has recovered.
I get that, and I guess it's a good reason not to park someone down there.
It's not a good reason not to just send one player offsides on a breakaway and then send another guy as the ball is played, giving you two guys behind the defenders and neither offsides if the second pass is slightly backwards. Yeah, it would take a great pass and perfect timing, but seems like it would be worth trying every now and then given how often some teams attempt 1-man breakaways.
And the defenders would probably mostly be standing flat-footed with their arms raised for offsides on the first guy.
Posted on 7/20/11 at 9:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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i don't get why teams try to score when up a goal with 20-30 min left they should be able to theoretically pass it between the back 4 and 2 holding mids without any threat of losing it it would be the most boring shite ever, but it would be a guaranteed victory
This exact strategy is what cost the USWNT a win in regulation. Instead of pressing forward, they attempted to pass back and forth in their own third to run out the time...until they mishandled a pass and Japan got into the box where the word "clear" became the punchline to a joke and all of the sudden a "theoretically...guaranteed victory" turned into an embarrassing marriage of "it wasn't meant to be" with "glad it was Japan, the nation can now rebuild". Only, nobody in Japan gave a frick or even watched the match and our utterly comedic attempts to clear multiple balls from the 6 yard box necessitate advancing the ball out of the back third ASAP...or sooner.
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