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re: Match Day 7/11 England vs Italy Euro 2020 Final - 3pm EST BBC One/ITV/ESPN Italy Champions
Posted on 7/12/21 at 5:47 pm to RandySavage
Posted on 7/12/21 at 5:47 pm to RandySavage
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Kane
Grealish Mount Sterling
Phillips Rice/Bellingham
Shaw Stones Maguire Walker
I agree that this team looks better.
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WC Champs.
However, this is right in line with the type "it's only about us" English pundit/fan thinking that makes it so entertaining to watch them lose.
Considering that:
Italy just outplayed England without their arguably brightest young attacking star Zaniolo, a huge downgrade in replacing injured Spinazzola with Emerson and also -- to complete the AS Roma hospital ward -- Lorenzo Pellegrini.
Belgium and Spain also both outplayed Italy for a lot more stretches of those matches than England.
Not to even mention that France still has the highest ceiling of any European NT if they get their tactics better and Germany will inevitably bounce back.
I wouldn't ink my "it's coming home" tattoo even if Southgate improves the tactics a bit.
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 6:23 pm to wm72
Chiesa is only a year older than Zaniolo but I get your point.
England won’t be able to “Greece” its way to the finals next year. I have a feeling it’s going to be a weird arse tournament.
England won’t be able to “Greece” its way to the finals next year. I have a feeling it’s going to be a weird arse tournament.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 6:49 pm to Breadstick Gun
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And what’s Saka’s PK history? There is none.
Southgate blew it and Grealish/Sterling should have absolutely been adamant in taking one of those PKs.
Rumors that Pickford would have been their 6th PK taker? WTF
Yesterday you blamed Sterling for not taking the kick
Posted on 7/12/21 at 6:51 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Saw this tweet
LINK
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England’s xi had taken as pros & suddenly I understand:
Grealish - 1 penalty
Saka - 0 penalties
Maguire - 0 pens
Sancho - 3 pens
Rashford - 14 pens
Kane - 40+ pens
Sterling - 5 pens (3 missed)
Stones - 0 pens
Shaw - 0 pens
Phillips - 0 pens
LINK
Posted on 7/12/21 at 6:57 pm to wm72
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Italy just outplayed England without their arguably brightest young attacking star Zaniolo
Well England had arguably three of their brightest young attacking stars sitting on the bench doing frick all.
But you're right France still has the best talent.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 7:14 pm to hendersonshands
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Chiesa is only a year older than Zaniolo but I get your point
Chiesa really had a coming out party the past couple of weeks. He's been one of my favorite young players for a while.
I wish he would have stayed at Fiorentina a bit longer because he was so electric to watch on counters and 1 v 3 when they played stronger teams. Chiesa was single-handedly responsible for a 5 goal outburst against Roma a couple of years ago in a match where Roma really controlled the game. One of the more impressive matches I've ever seen a player have.
That said, Zaniolo has been the slightly more coveted of the two players and one Mancini had relied on a bit more for the NT until his injury, mainly because of the size/power dimension he brings in directly carrying the ball through traffic for what's otherwise a very lightweight midfield/attack.
This post was edited on 7/12/21 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 7/12/21 at 7:41 pm to RandySavage
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Italy just outplayed England without their arguably brightest young attacking star Zaniolo
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Well England had arguably three of their brightest young attacking stars sitting on the bench doing frick all.
But you're right France still has the best talent.
I agree that England has more talent than usual and room for significant improvement.
Was really just making the point with Italy's key missing players that other countries who are currently stronger aren't maxed out in their room for improvement and just waiting for England to pass them if they simply tweak their tactics a bit.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 8:34 pm to castorinho
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italy was the bigger favorite coming into the tournament
No they weren’t
Posted on 7/13/21 at 7:09 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Yesterday you blamed Sterling for not taking the kick
Are you not able to comprehend the idea that multiple people can carry the blame?
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:26 am to wm72
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Chiesa really had a coming out party the past couple of weeks. He's been one of my favorite young players for a while.
Coming out if people weren’t paying attention to Série A this year. He was fantastic for Juve and I expected he would do well this tournament.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:45 am to castorinho
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italy was the bigger favorite coming into the tournament
Wasn’t England the betting favorites for this tournament, even above France?
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:53 am to cwil177
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Coming out if people weren’t paying attention to Série A this year.
Think it’s fair to say this is the sentiment because not many people pay attention to Serie A
Posted on 7/13/21 at 10:48 am to cwil177
He started off slow at the beginning of the campaign but as the season progressed he really started to flourish.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:30 pm to wm72
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I wouldn't ink my "it's coming home" tattoo even if Southgate improves the tactics a bit.
“Too late”
-half of England in the last month probably
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:24 pm to cwil177
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Wasn’t England the betting favorites for this tournament, even above France?
My book had France as the favorites at +400 and England second at +450
Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:35 pm to cwil177
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Wasn’t England the betting favorites for this tournament, even above France?
Some had England some had France
Italy were around 4th. 5th or 6th depending on the book
Posted on 7/13/21 at 2:27 pm to tigerpimpbot
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