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re: Liverpool FC 2011/12 Season Thread

Posted on 5/16/12 at 11:03 am to
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 11:03 am to
Latest rumors on twitter are that Ian Ayre is out, too...
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 11:11 am to
Not surprising. FSG are cleaning house.
Posted by BobLoblaw
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 11:12 am to
@OliverKayTimes: Some suggesting #LFC picked a good day to bury bad news under England squad selection. Tomorrow back pages will suggest otherwise
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 11:14 am to
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 11:31 am to
I'll take the field. I'm thinking the next manager comes from somewhere on the continent, most likely France or Italy. Maybe Portugal.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 11:34 am to
Clarke is gone too according to Tony Barret of the Times.

#cleaninghouse#

eta: apparently Clarke resigned out of loyalty to the King.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 11:37 am
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:29 pm to
Ayre rumor supposedly false
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 7:22 pm to
Betting on AVB was 2-1 to become LFC manager. It's now suspended. Looks like he's the heavy favorite.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:01 pm to
Wow look like he is set to be appointed.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:00 pm to
There is no over reaction going on any of the Liverpool boards right now, none.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 11:28 pm to
I don't know what to make of any of this right now.

Right now, it looks to be a 4 man race.

AVB
Rafa
Martinez
Rodgers

I'm open to AVB. But I know he will need time and money. I can accept that.

I'm on the fence with Rafa. Seems like this is the time to move forward, not backwards. Rafa did some great things for the club (2 CL finals appearances, 1 FA Cup, 2nd in the league), but part of me feels that both parties just need to move on. He did bring in some tremendous talent to the first team and academy though. Right now, I would say he is my second choice.

I don't want Martinez or Rodgers. I don't think either are ready.

I really don't like any of the names on the list particularly.
This post was edited on 5/17/12 at 12:07 am
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 1:07 am to
I'm so anxious and excited right now. I wanted another year for Kenny, but he didn't get one. Time to move on and start looking forward to next season.
Posted by BobLoblaw
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 1:14 am to
I feel like you read to much into speculation

Nobody really knows the interview process that's going on and no one will know for sure until theyve made a final decision and extended an offer to a manager. All you can do is wait out the speculation until something solid comes out. There's gonna be a new story and a new favorite every other day though that's just how it goes.
Posted by BobLoblaw
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 9:40 am to
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@alitweedale: Bitchy. RT @Fourth_Official: Quite amusing that John Henry has unfollowed Kenny Dalglish on Twitter after sacking him.


Posted by xavierTIGER
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 10:50 am to
quote:

I'm on the fence with Rafa. Seems like this is the time to move forward, not backwards. Rafa did some great things for the club (2 CL finals appearances, 1 FA Cup, 2nd in the league), but part of me feels that both parties just need to move on. He did bring in some tremendous talent to the first team and academy though. Right now, I would say he is my second choice.

I'm just the opposite. I have Rafa as my first choice, but I could definitely get behind an AVB hiring.
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I don't want Martinez or Rodgers. I don't think either are ready.

And I agree with this, I think both of these names are setting the bar too low.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 11:13 am to
I would have Klopp as my first choice...

But i can get behind AVB (I kinda wanted him when we appointed KK full time)

I also could get behind Rafa and he seems the no brainer, in what I see as a very important decision. This will make or break us for the foreseeable future. Part of me agrees with the other poster who had the sentiment of "been there done that" with Rafa...

Posted by BobLoblaw
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 11:23 am to
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I would have Klopp as my first choice...


I would too. I hope they can put together an impressive package for him that might tempt him. He will say no though.

quote:

But i can get behind AVB (I kinda wanted him when we appointed KK full time)


Would probably be a good choice. Hopefully he learned a lot at Chelsea, he should have.


quote:

I also could get behind Rafa and he seems the no brainer, in what I see as a very important decision. This will make or break us for the foreseeable future. Part of me agrees with the other poster who had the sentiment of "been there done that" with Rafa...



I agree with this. I normally don't think going back is a good idea but I think given how the circumstances have changed (new owners) since Rafa left it actually makes sense.

Its definitely a risk though and I also agree with the make you or break you part. If things go for Rafa how they went for Kenny during his season and a half LFC are really gonna be set back. Ya'll are one bad season away from completing the transition from champions league regulars to top 10 regulars.

With Financial Fair Play coming into effect and the limited matchday revenue because of the restrictions of Anfield if they continue to spend like they did under Kenny and results don't change it could really continue to get worse.
Posted by Pinetar
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 11:28 am to
a painful, if not slightly amusing commentary on the past season-

last night I was an AR on a youth match. One of the coaches is British. Early in the first half, one of his players lines up a shot from about 15 yards out and blasts the ball about 10 yard high and about 15 yards wide. The ugliness of the shot is actually hard to describe. It was an absolute shank with no defenders really pressuring the kid and no discernible reason why the shot was not put on frame. From behind me I think hear the British coach mumble, "Christ. He pulled a Downing." I asked him about it after the match, and he just laughed and confirmed that I heard him correctly.
Posted by xavierTIGER
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 11:28 am to
quote:

I would have Klopp as my first choice...

Well, I was just considering the realistic options hahaha. I agree with Klopp if we can just pick anyone.
quote:

Part of me agrees with the other poster who had the sentiment of "been there done that" with Rafa...

Personally, I don't get this sentiment. I think a lot of it stems from the fact that we brought back a former manager in Dalglish and it was unsuccessful. But Rafa had us at the top of the game within the last decade. People complain that KK was tactically outdated and that he didn't have a good grasp of modern football. But that argument doesn't hold water when considering Benitez. The two aren't comparable IMO.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23554 posts
Posted on 5/17/12 at 11:33 am to
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Personally, I don't get this sentiment. I think a lot of it stems from the fact that we brought back a former manager in Dalglish and it was unsuccessful. But Rafa had us at the top of the game within the last decade. People complain that KK was tactically outdated and that he didn't have a good grasp of modern football. But that argument doesn't hold water when considering Benitez. The two aren't comparable IMO.



I guess if it's a "new dawn" so to speak, I'd rather start fresh... But trust me, I would have no problem getting behind Rafa if that was FSG's choice... I'm ready for all the complaining about zonal marking on set pieces again
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