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I think our group presents a major problem to our defense

Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:09 pm
Posted by Tigerstark
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:09 pm
I won't be able to sleep tonight picturing Ronaldo, Mueller, Nani, Lahm, Kroos, Gotze et al going against Beasley, a 70 year old Cherundelo, or Evans on the outside. I will pray for Jurgy to put FAbian at LB for those games, and I guess Cameron at RB unless a better options presents itself.

I think we have our work cut out for ourselves, but that we also need to finalize the first choice back 4 immediately and get them playing together.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83371 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:12 pm to
I think drawing Germany makes it paramount that we call up Cherundolo if he is healthy.

Even if he doesn't start at RB, he could give the backline tips.
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
6469 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:17 pm to
I'll be worried for the entire tournament with Beasley at LB.

He's faired well in qualifying but we need Fabian back there. We have the midfield depth that allows him to drop back.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:18 pm to
The back four was by far our weakest spot, regardless of the draw.

Timmy will have to be on his game, but if we keep a man (J Jones) on Ronaldo during the match, slow his progress, then we can def get a positive result.

The order of the games is important. The German game is last, meaning that we may not even need a result.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83371 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:19 pm to
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The German game is last, meaning that we may not even need a result


That's only true if we beat both Ghana AND Portugal
Posted by Harry Pitts
Salt Lake City
Member since Jul 2011
1279 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:22 pm to
Fabian will be playing LB for the majority of the group stage unless we are down at halftime.

Beasley will not match up well agains the physicality of Germany and the majesty of CR7
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:42 pm to
Back 4 of a combination of FJ, Besler, Gonzales, Cameron, and healthy Dolo would be better than what we fielded in 2010 IMO.

I still don't believe that JK sees DMB as his WC left back.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19699 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:43 pm to
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but if we keep a man (J Jones) on Ronaldo during the match


If you're relying on Jones to be positionally disciplined to lead us to victory, you're probably in for some serious disappointment.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:45 pm to
chandler needs to get his shite together
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:45 pm to
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but if we keep a man (J Jones) on Ronaldo during the match


You don't need to do that to Ronaldo, and it probably wouldn't help, anyway.

You have to stay compact, get numbers behind the ball, and minimize space that he can move into: on and off the ball. Of course, this is problematic because he is a predator off the ball and unpredictable on it, i.e., he's almost as dangerous getting to the end line and crossing with his left as he is cutting in on his right. Then, when you have it all figured out, he drifts centrally or switches flanks.

That said, it can be done, and worse teams have done it.
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17251 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:50 pm to
Left back against Portugal will mostly be dealing with Nani. That could be good or bad, it's basically up to Nani.

I guess it would be Ayew for Ghana?

My preferred attacking midfield group would be Fabian, Dempsey, and Donovan, it's just a matter of whether or not we can get away with Beasley at LB.

As for RB, I've never really liked Cameron there until this year. He's really been playing well for Stoke though, seems to be growing into the position. RB is a position where, if everything worked out, we could have some solid choices and depth.
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17251 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:59 pm to
for what it's worth, I think it's arguable that the Johnson-Beasley left side is less of a liability defensively than a Dempsey-Johnson left side would be (I know some people seem to want that, and it does make some sense).
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
21088 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 4:28 pm to
I want to see FJ at LB.
Dempsey in the hole, Aron on the left, Donovan on the right, and Josmer up top obviously. That would be deadly attacking, all creative players who can shoot from distance and can play with both feet, the interchanging runs would be fun to watch.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 5:04 pm to
Trying to figure out that midfield 3 is a tough one. Johannsson is best used right behind Jozy, but I think that's LD's best position right now. I'm sure LD could play on the right though. Sure, Dempsey coming in from the left leaves us a little exposed, especially if FJ has made an overlapping run, but that makes us more potent on offense. It's up to JJ or MB to clean it up if things get hairy.

In the end I think our best option is Dempsey-Johnannsson-Donovan.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
21088 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 5:07 pm to
Dempsey playing anywhere other than centrally is a liability defensively. If we play Landon on the left, I like Zusi on the right because of his ability to put passes on a platter for Jozy, and he is an engine, he tracks back and helps defensively all match.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36821 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

The order of the games is important. The German game is last, meaning that we may not even need a result.

we got the best order of games possible for the group we are in. and ghana being in our group helps us if we beat ghana. and we get to watch germany and ronaldo. those are the 3 upsides i found to this group.
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 5:45 pm to
We need to bring back our shutdown stopper for CR7.

Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

Dempsey playing anywhere other than centrally is a liability defensively.

1. Dempsey doesn't really play defense.
2. You must not have read the rest of my argument re:JJ and MB
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
21088 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 5:56 pm to
I know he doesn't, that's why I was saying him on the wing wouldn't work. And if JJ and MB are constantly covering wide to cover for overlapping fullbacks then we will be stretched thin in the middle big time.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 6:52 pm to
You realize Dempsey played that role last WC and had the likes of Bornstein, rather than FJ, behind him, right?
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