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Good Piece on Gus Johnson's Struggles w/ Announcing Games

Posted on 4/3/13 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Early Cuyler
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Posted on 4/3/13 at 12:25 pm
LINK

Pretty interesting. It makes me appreciate the velvety sounds of Ian Darke, Martin Tyler, et al. Hope Gus doesn't affect the UCL (and subsequent WC) enjoyment for people trying to learn/get into soccer.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/3/13 at 12:40 pm to
Thanks for posting that. Kind of agree with everything he writes.

quote:

Hope Gus doesn't affect the UCL (and subsequent WC) enjoyment for people trying to learn/get into soccer.



I doubt that's much to worry about. Seems that it's fans who've been watching for ages that find his lack of ready knowledge/feel of the game most awkward.

Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 4/3/13 at 1:00 pm to
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This Ian Darke call of Abby Wambach’s equalizer against Brazil in the World Cup is also terrific. Darke’s bit is to mirror the anxiety of the viewer. (It’s not homerism, exactly, but he never forgets that he’s calling a U.S. game for an American audience.) You hear the urgency in his voice when he says, “Lloyd’s got to get this pass off,” and he clues you in to what’s going on off-screen when he tells you everyone’s bombing forward. Then the cross comes in, Wambach snaps her neck, and Darke goes crazy. It’s a crescendo of emotion: tension, then free, thundering release. This is what Gus Johnson could be, at his best.


I couldn't agree with this more.

Darke's call on the Donovan goal against Algeria was so perfectly paced. The terse, hopeful snippets of "Distribution. Brilliant" all the way to the flowery "You could not write a script like this" as the dog pile occurs.... The most brilliant description of a sporting event I've ever heard.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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Posted on 4/3/13 at 1:02 pm to
GO, GO USA!


I watch it just to get chills every now and then.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25278 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 1:16 pm to
Darke is so much better than everyone else...

I'm a Gus Johnson fan in general but don't want him involved in International matches- it's awkward and distracting.

Just not a fit at this point.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 4/3/13 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

An ardent fan of any sport becomes fascinated with its minutiae and subtleties, but the American initiate acts like the intricacies of that sport are special and unknowable—the average football- or baseball-watching simpleton could never fully appreciate the delicacy of a perfectly weighted through pass or the tactics that inform a good counterattack.

i really do fricking DESPISE this thinking. the writer was spot on with this bullshite

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He doesn’t yet know how to structure his calls for climatic moments. Johnson snarled when Lahm played in his cross, then fell silent on the actual goal. His lack of attunement to the rhythms of the game was laid bare. We got a clumsy call because of it.

gus johnson does this bullshite in every sport he calls. it's why i dislike him

Posted by Sheep
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Posted on 4/3/13 at 2:08 pm to
While I don't disagree with this general notion:

quote:

i really do fricking DESPISE this thinking. the writer was spot on with this bullshite


I do believe this is 100% true:

quote:

the average football- or baseball-watching simpleton could never fully appreciate the delicacy of a perfectly weighted through pass


It's a wildly difficult thing to do (not under or over-hitting it), and something that is difficult to appreciate without having (or least having tried to have) done it.... Just as a really long bounce pass in basketball or hitting on to the green with beautiful backspin.

No, I don't think your average rube can appreciate it, but you could say that about many things in many sports.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 2:10 pm to
Yeah, it's like it baseball when a shortstop running into the hole flips the ball with his glove to the second baseman covering. You don't appreciate how hard that is until you try it.
Posted by Sheep
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Posted on 4/3/13 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Yeah, it's like it baseball when a shortstop running into the hole flips the ball with his glove to the second baseman covering. You don't appreciate how hard that is until you try it.


Oh, you could point to something simpler than that. I could say that a stretch/dig from a first baseman looks easy as shite.... "hey, you just reach down and grab it" doesn't remotely capture how tough it is to frick that up.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 8:05 pm to
I only understood a handful of words in this video, but Andres Cantor also had a great call of Donovan's Algeria goal. LINK
Posted by Tweezy
west of east
Member since Apr 2008
12157 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 8:21 pm to
I love the buildup to the word goal in Spanish commentating it's like "hmmmgooooaalllllllllllll" all one long long syllable
Posted by Tweezy
west of east
Member since Apr 2008
12157 posts
Posted on 4/3/13 at 8:23 pm to
Also cantor showed more emotion than 95% of Americans had after the goal. I know I was in tears of joy though. So much pride after that
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/3/13 at 9:43 pm to
Article was good, but it led me to watching multiple Landy Cakes goals.
Posted by lesismeaurx
datdirtydirty
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:07 pm to
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GO, GO USA!


I watch it just to get chills everyday
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:20 pm to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 2:51 am to
Ian Darke is the best announcer in sports. He unbelievable.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20750 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:02 am to
Just watched Darke's call of the Algeria goal again and the damn onion ninja snuck in behind me one more time. Bastard.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12469 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:41 am to
I actually hate the drawn out Gooooooaaaaall thing. I feel like in big situations, an announcer needs to do one of two things:

1. Say nothing and let the viewer absorb the crowd and participants' reactions.
2. Say something that describes the situation or what is going on. For instance, Ian Darkes "Surely through. Oh, it's incredible" is something that is memorable because it is unique to the situation.

Cantor just saying goal for a long period of time is not memorable and it takes away from the viewer being able to absorb the scene.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:57 am to
I think the his excitement during the build up, his reaction after he finishes his "gol", and what the camera picks up allows you to absorb the scene.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12469 posts
Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:04 am to
quote:

I think the his excitement during the build up, his reaction after he finishes his "gol", and what the camera picks up allows you to absorb the scene.


What is he adding by just saying goal for a minute long? He might as well just scream for a minute straight. I liked his excitement leading up to the goal, but the aftermath is unnecessary and annoying. It's just very forgettable.
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