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Designated Players are part of the problem
Posted on 10/15/15 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 10/15/15 at 4:37 pm
Can we talk about how the MLS overpaying USNT players is part of there problem? When Klinsmann first started he said he wanted the players to go and fight for places in Europe yet the opposite has happened. They play in a weak league week in and week out and are grossly overpaid their market value. What is their motivation to get better? They have all regressed since going to the MLS and it is part of the problem.
This post was edited on 10/15/15 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 10/15/15 at 4:38 pm to apfour21
Someone listened to Men in Blazers today
Posted on 10/15/15 at 4:39 pm to Broski
I was thinking it while watching the games but I actually listened to it yesterday lol.
Posted on 10/15/15 at 4:39 pm to apfour21
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When Klinsmann first started he said he wanted the players to go and fight for places in Europe yet the opposite has happened
When he started calling in NASL scrubs, this kind of lost all meaning.
Posted on 10/15/15 at 4:40 pm to TN Bhoy
quote:Not that I agree with that but at least those players have some type of motivation to prove themselves.
When he started calling in NASL scrubs, this kind of lost all meaning.
Posted on 10/15/15 at 4:44 pm to apfour21
Great for the MLS, bad for the USMNT imo
Posted on 10/15/15 at 4:48 pm to Broski
I brought this up a few days ago, our players have all come to MLS for the money, (who can blame them, family first) but every player is worse then they were 2 years ago, save Cameron and Ream.
Posted on 10/15/15 at 5:02 pm to RTR America
quote:In the long run it may be a good thing if they help create new fans of MLS teams. However, it is killing the current team.
Great for the MLS, bad for the USMNT imo
Posted on 10/15/15 at 5:26 pm to apfour21
Meh, the "future stars" are all in Europe anyway. I have no problem with the guys that came over knowing how much potential is over seas.
Posted on 10/15/15 at 5:42 pm to apfour21
yea, its the players, not JK and his shitty work managing the team by constantly putting them in position to fail w/frequent lineup changes and forcing players to play roles they have never played before
This post was edited on 10/15/15 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 10/15/15 at 11:42 pm to apfour21
Ive been saying this shite 
Posted on 10/16/15 at 12:00 am to Dr RC
I think that a lot of the players who that applies to actually did go prove themselves. Clint deserved his money, and it wasn't a bad move for him. I'm not sure it's the best decision in Bradley's case, but I could see why he'd take the money and want to be that guy.
It doesn't help, though, that the second that someone is successful in Europe and gets a tiny bit of traction for the USMNT, MLS immediately starts trying to give them way more money than they're worth to come here. I think Mix will ultimately have made a mistake coming here and hurt his progression because his one-touch, finesse style isn't really going to ever cut it in a league as physical as MLS. I may be wrong, obviously, but I've felt that way since they announced it. I think he'd have really taken strides in Eredivise.
It doesn't help, though, that the second that someone is successful in Europe and gets a tiny bit of traction for the USMNT, MLS immediately starts trying to give them way more money than they're worth to come here. I think Mix will ultimately have made a mistake coming here and hurt his progression because his one-touch, finesse style isn't really going to ever cut it in a league as physical as MLS. I may be wrong, obviously, but I've felt that way since they announced it. I think he'd have really taken strides in Eredivise.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 12:05 am to Dr RC
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yea, its the players, not JK and his shitty work managing the team by constantly putting them in position to fail w/frequent lineup changes and forcing players to play roles they have never played before
This right here is the real problem with the program overall. There's only ONE problem and anything else is just deflecting for Jurgen. Hell, we did it a little at the end with Bob a lot, too. It got to the point to where it just went sour and there was no repairing it. The frustration had gone too far to ever really fix it. It's almost considered a sin to mention MLS in any way that isn't a glowing tribute, especially now after Jurgen's taken so many shots and made people even more defensive over it.
We have to accept, though, that Jurgen's the reason why we're crashing and burning so terribly, but he's not the Achilles heel keeping the US from being some elite team. People, mostly decent but not superstar talents, are being offered a deal where they get paid more to come here, be a star player for whichever club MLS wants to have them, and have much less pressure and lower competition. Add in a lot of guys from the States who always struggled for respect and validation who are basically being offered their dream of the money and fame while still playing at home. It's a little silly to say that all of that doesn't have any effect on a player's drive to stay hungry. It's the main reason I'm excited to see more players like Giovinco coming over and crushing it because it's going to raise the expectation of what a star player in MLS should be.
US Soccer has a whole mess of problems outside of Jurgen, and I'm not exactly enthusiastic about the fact that so many people refuse to even acknowledge them until after he's gone. How do we even know who to hire until we analyze everything that they'll be influencing and making decisions on? We're not some powerhouse that people dream of managing. Jurgen came here to pad his ego and be the guy to do the unthinkable and make the US a footballing power. We need to be really careful not to make the mistake of bringing in another guy who wants to make it his team with his influence without them really fitting our program.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 8:59 am to cheesesteak501
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Meh, the "future stars" are all in Europe anyway. I have no problem with the guys that came over knowing how much potential is over seas.
Should look at the MLS players on the U20 and U23 rosters.
Also, if MLS overpaying for top talent caused players not to care anymore, then why does the overpaid foreign DPs continue to produce? Giovinco is doing truly amazing things and certainly doesn't deserve to be the top paid Italian in the world.
This post was edited on 10/16/15 at 9:04 am
Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:30 am to oauron
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Also, if MLS overpaying for top talent caused players not to care anymore, then why does the overpaid foreign DPs continue to produce? Giovinco is doing truly amazing things and certainly doesn't deserve to be the top paid Italian in the world.
Outside of him though, there aren't a TON of foreign players in their prime playing in MLS.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:34 am to apfour21
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This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 9:12 am
Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:35 am to oauron
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Giovinco is doing truly amazing things and certainly doesn't deserve to be the top paid Italian in the world.
Its awesome to watch but it shows the gap the MLS has to cover.
Good thing is his contract has virtually priced him out of a move back to Europe.
But on the flip side it is doing the same to USMNT players who are not performing anywhere near what they are getting paid.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 10:43 am to apfour21
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They play in a weak league week in and week out and are grossly overpaid their market value.
To think people attack my English.....
Other than Bradley and Dempsey, who is grossly overpaid?
Posted on 10/16/15 at 10:49 am to apfour21
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we talk about how the MLS overpaying USNT players is part of there problem
if wiki is to be believed,
the only americans on the DP list are
Wondo
bradley
besler
zusi
beasley
jones
jozy
of those, what, 3 of them could be playing in top europe?
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