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re: Chelsea 2024/25 Season-Long Thread: The Enzo Era Begins
Posted on 2/15/25 at 3:09 pm to In The Know
Posted on 2/15/25 at 3:09 pm to In The Know
Right but losing out on UCL is bad, missing out on Europa would be a massive failure imo.
As far as our spending can go due to money in
As far as our spending can go due to money in
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Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:07 am to In The Know
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The project is to buy young players cheap and stock up on young talent. Then sell them if they don’t pan out.
True
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But we have no veteran players like Silva to lead. And we collapse when things get tight.
Also true
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So yes we have young talent but they have not grown over the season.
This is unknown.
People said this about 2018 LSU.
That (eventually) turned out okay.
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Will next year be any different? Doubtful.
So you’re saying that experience matters (Silva), but not really?
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:09 am to olddawg26
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Right but losing out on UCL is bad, missing out on Europa would be a massive failure imo.
I would agree about Europa.
To miss out would mean 6th or worse AND not winning the Conference League.
It’s a long season, let’s see how it plays out.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:30 am to In The Know
Except that no starter was “bought cheap.” They are overspending on unproven talent that they then cannot unload because they have over priced the players.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 12:19 pm to bulletprooftiger
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Except that no starter was “bought cheap.” They are overspending on unproven talent that they then cannot unload because they have over priced the players.
Meh, the long contracts make the money side a non-issue.
I mean, if they sell 1/3 of the players for profit (a reasonable assumption as player contracts have continued to increase.
1/3 they break even on, and 1/3 will earn better contracts over time.
Seeing the concept of “trading” players also helps.
Lastly, a shirt sponsor will happen at some point. That is straight cash homey.
The system is a brilliant design IF your talent scouts are doing their job well.
That is an unknown at this point.
Time will tell.
I believe that our most talented players aren’t on the roster yet.
Let’s see how it plays out.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 3:07 pm to jimmy the leg
I'm so confused
Posted on 2/16/25 at 3:16 pm to jimmy the leg
I’m an optimist. And I like this team. I don’t care about the money because it isn’t mine. But, you can see how much trouble they are having moving on from the players on who they overspent.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 4:21 pm to RandySavage
Sell a player - get the cash.
Buy a player - it’s amortized.
“Trade” played, you get the cash and the buy gets amortized by both clubs.
Again, money isn’t an issue unless the club signs players that they can’t resell down the road.
With rising player costs, even “busts” should get close to their purchase price over time. That’s roughly 1/3 at worst.
Another 1/3 will gain in value and be sold for profit.
That profit can go into new acquisitions, or increasing salaries for those players (the final 1/3) making a difference.
Imho, the Blues are going to make bank over time. The question is…how much.
Buy a player - it’s amortized.
“Trade” played, you get the cash and the buy gets amortized by both clubs.
Again, money isn’t an issue unless the club signs players that they can’t resell down the road.
With rising player costs, even “busts” should get close to their purchase price over time. That’s roughly 1/3 at worst.
Another 1/3 will gain in value and be sold for profit.
That profit can go into new acquisitions, or increasing salaries for those players (the final 1/3) making a difference.
Imho, the Blues are going to make bank over time. The question is…how much.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 4:25 pm to bulletprooftiger
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But, you can see how much trouble they are having moving on from the players on who they overspent.
True.
However, they were kind of up against it coming out of a transfer ban. The one major mistake that they made imho was losing Rudiger. As they sign younger players to long term deals, the high cost guys that aren’t performing are slowly being shown the door (in one fashion or another). The growing pains off of the field are largely circumstantial, and manageable.
I don’t see any FFP issues with the system they currently use.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 6:49 pm to jimmy the leg
The issue that will come up is if they get antsy with underperforming young guys who aren’t given a proper chance, then get rid of them. Need I remind you of KDB and Salah? And Silva was an experienced veteran of professional futbol- you cannot compare him to our 20 and 21 year olds who will have a grand total of one year in the EPL.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 7:45 pm to In The Know
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And Silva was an experienced veteran of professional futbol
True
He was also a defensive liability (even more so than now).
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you cannot compare him to our 20 and 21 year olds who will have a grand total of one year in the EPL.
True
His experience was a key factor in determining how important he was to the club. However, Father Time is undefeated. As Shaw once lamented, 39 ain’t 29 bruh!
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Need I remind you of KDB and Salah?
Haha, No. I’m the one that brought them up earlier in this thread when I was the one telling people to he patient.
Again, the squad is a work in process, as frustrating as that currently is.
Remember, Pep took over a Man City team that had finished 4th the year before. He improved them one position in year one.
They then won 6 in a row.
Do I expect that - no.
However, I do expect the team to be in the mix as the squad gets older.
Just my .02.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 1:33 pm to jimmy the leg
Wish I had your optimism. However this season ends, a striker and a keeper are the most pressing needs for next season.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:02 pm to In The Know
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However this season ends, a striker and a keeper are the most pressing needs for next season.
Agreed
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:14 pm to jimmy the leg
I miss Cole Palmer.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:23 pm to okietiger
This team is the biggest bunch of figs ever assembled
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:26 pm to RandySavage
well shite
what a turd sandwich
CP20 has not scored since Jan 14
what a turd sandwich
CP20 has not scored since Jan 14
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:34 pm to jimmy the leg
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It’s a long season, let’s see how it plays out.
Still bullish?
Posted on 2/22/25 at 4:03 pm to olddawg26
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Still bullish?
Long term…yes.
Of course, I’m assuming that we get a keeper worth a shite.
That howler was inexcusable.
Lastly, CP20 had a chance to put the match away and didn’t.
Such is life.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 4:04 pm to supatigah
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CP20 has not scored since Jan 14
And has had a boatload of quality chances. He just needs to regain his form.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 8:52 am to supatigah
I can’t see how keeping nkuku over Joao Felix, even as the third choice, was the right option. He got pushed around and outrun all game
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