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re: Chelsea 2023/24 Season-Long Thread: We’re Toast
Posted on 5/23/24 at 8:18 pm to In The Know
Posted on 5/23/24 at 8:18 pm to In The Know
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The Telegraph claim Leicester manager Enzo Maresca, Ipswich's Kieran McKenna, Brentford boss Thomas Frank and another unnamed candidate remain in contention.
I’ve even heard Kompany mentioned.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 9:53 pm to RandySavage
the mystery name floating around has to be DeZerbi formerly of BHA
fourfourtwo has an excellent breakdown of Poch strategically vs the CFC Board’s philosophy
the next CFC Manager will be someone good with young talent that uses the possession and build from the back style versus Poch’s preferred press and attack from the middle/front style
this means Gallagher is almost definitely out at CFC
fourfourtwo has an excellent breakdown of Poch strategically vs the CFC Board’s philosophy
the next CFC Manager will be someone good with young talent that uses the possession and build from the back style versus Poch’s preferred press and attack from the middle/front style
this means Gallagher is almost definitely out at CFC
Posted on 5/24/24 at 8:41 am to supatigah
I’m assuming United is trying to lock up McKenna before Chelsea.
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:21 pm to supatigah
There’s zero reason we should get rid of Conor. Guy was the glue to the squad and can play so many positions. Oh, and he’s stupid young still.
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:55 pm to lynxcat
Gallagher doesn’t fit the style the Board wants to play. Poch being out is a huge move towards the Board solidifying their build from the back possession style. The financial commitment to Enzo is a really big move in that direction as well. CFC playing so well when Enzo went out was not a coincidence. Poch got his press attack style with Enzo out and the team took off.
CG23 pushes the ball forward, he doesn’t pass it backwards. He also presses high and wants to attack at all times. This is why he played so well under Poch.
Watch the FourFourTwo video I linked, he explains the disconnect between Poch and the Board in great detail. The team played two different styles with two different style players at the same time. That is why the Blues were such a disjointed mess.
Honestly I don’t know why CFC Board hired Poch in the first place. We all know he is a high press and attack manager.
I am not saying I agree with it, Gallagher is my favorite player on the squad. Selling Gallagher and Chalobah provides vital financial relief for the club as well.
It is what it is
CG23 pushes the ball forward, he doesn’t pass it backwards. He also presses high and wants to attack at all times. This is why he played so well under Poch.
Watch the FourFourTwo video I linked, he explains the disconnect between Poch and the Board in great detail. The team played two different styles with two different style players at the same time. That is why the Blues were such a disjointed mess.
Honestly I don’t know why CFC Board hired Poch in the first place. We all know he is a high press and attack manager.
I am not saying I agree with it, Gallagher is my favorite player on the squad. Selling Gallagher and Chalobah provides vital financial relief for the club as well.
It is what it is
This post was edited on 5/26/24 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:03 pm to supatigah
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Selling Gallagher and Chalibah provides vital financial relief for the club as well.
I'll never understand a setup that incentivizes teams selling off their homegrown talent. It's so antithetical to how it should be. So of course it's the way it is.
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:24 pm to RandySavage
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I'll never understand a setup that incentivizes teams selling off their homegrown talent. It's so antithetical to how it should be. So of course it's the way it is.
I agree and I hate it
I admit I don’t understand FFP rules at all
Posted on 5/26/24 at 3:32 pm to supatigah
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Gallagher doesn’t fit the style the Board wants to play.
I don’t want to play the style Poch likes either. There is lots of pointless possession, and then a lot of individual attacking.
I love a Gallagher’s work rate, but in the attacking third, he is really poor. Worse yet, he isn’t improving in that area.
He would be an amazing holding mid IF he could find some positional discipline. Given how young he is, I believe that he will. However, Caicedo showed his class at the end, so he won’t displace him. As such, with a manager utilizing the talent on hand, I don’t see CG getting as much PT. His value is on the high end right now. So I can understand him being sold.
As for Enzo, time will tell.
I will wait until:
-he is healthy
-he has time with Caicedo
-he has a manager that has a plan that works with those two
-he has an attacker that fully knows how to play the position (Nkuku?)
As for Chalobah, I don’t want to see him go either. That being said, I get him being sold.
I’m not sure whom they bring in as a manager, but whoever it is will have quite a bit of talent to work with.
This post was edited on 5/26/24 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 5/26/24 at 3:38 pm to RandySavage
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I'll never understand a setup that incentivizes teams selling off their homegrown talent. It's so antithetical to how it should be. So of course it's the way it is.
It drives up the value of English / academy trained players (at least some of them). As such, it keeps the “English” premiership stocked with English players. Otherwise, that number would easily be cut in half.
Posted on 5/27/24 at 4:31 pm to In The Know
Enzo Meresca looks to be the hire. It could be long term 5 years plus.
He is a tactician and the best choice imho.
He is like Pep, but with a tinge of Aspergers.
He is a tactician and the best choice imho.
He is like Pep, but with a tinge of Aspergers.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 7:02 am to jimmy the leg
Saw that. I guess I’m ok with it? Did a good job with Leicester but it’s only been a year. I hope Chelsea isn’t falling in love with him just because he’s from Pep’s tree.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:15 am to In The Know
That's exactly the type of thing this ownership would do
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:56 am to In The Know
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Did a good job with Leicester but it’s only been a year.
It was a Leicester squad that lost its best players, was in shambles in terms of form (despite still being a fairly talented squad), and saddled with high expectations (win the Championship).
Outside of a poor run of form at the end (which they were able to overcome), they exceeded expectations.
I think that he was the best hire possible.
Young players need direction.
He seemingly knows the team very well (Asperger’s?), and already knows how he wants to play them.
That being said, his hiring means CG is all but gone.
Such is life.
I expect us to be top three next year, and win at least one trophy (a domestic cup) and perhaps two (Conference League).
Poch, despite the strong finish, was never going to get us to the top. His style is too laissez-faire for such a young team.
Picking up Tosin on a free from Fulham helps at CB.
Now…to get a top shelf keeper (Sanchez and Petrovich will not do, and selling both is plausible), and an experienced forward (does Vardy show up for a year or two with a loan to Leicester allowing for Jackson to get some more experience?). Nkuku is the guy, but we need a quality backup that can be a supersub against tired legs.
Seeing who comes back fully fit from pretty bad injuries is also something to keep an eye on.
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 11:25 am
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:59 am to In The Know
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I hope Chelsea isn’t falling in love with him just because he’s from Pep’s tree.
I don’t think so, but I’m sure it was a factor.
He is young, brilliant by most accounts, driven 24x7 (Asperger’s?), and potentially (probably) getting better with each bit of experience.
Again, I like the hire.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 1:58 pm to jimmy the leg
stolen from reddit
one main striker: Nkunku
one holding midfielder: Enzo
defensive midfielder: caicedo
fullback playing inside: Reece or Gusto
two wingers: Mudryk or Jackson, Palmer
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Some key points:
Maresca did his homework - he watched every single game of Leicester’s relegation season so he could see for himself what he was working with. His preparation for every game also consisted of hours of footage of the opposition, studying their approach.
He lived at the Seagrave training base during preseason where he held double training sessions and watched footage on repeat to immerse himself in the club.
Quote from Dewsbury-Hall: “A lot of the things he was saying, the lads hadn’t seen before. The way he explained it made it look so simple and we were telling ourselves, ‘How did we not know this?’ We felt out of our depth! The more you do it, the more it feels second nature. That’s why the top teams are so good: they’re all on the same wavelength.”
Brief note on tactics: a 4-3-3 that becomes a 4-5-1 out of possession but a 3-2-5 in possession. Leicester are very dominant in possession (which is one of the board’s criteria)
He won’t change his approach. He does have subtle variations, but there will also be one main striker, one holding midfielder with a full-back playing inside and two wingers. It is his way and he believes in it wholly. (He has a plan A and will stick to it stubbornly. When it worked it led to 31 league wins, when it didn’t work due to opposition sitting deep it really frustrated the older fans in particular who were used to a direct style of play)
one main striker: Nkunku
one holding midfielder: Enzo
defensive midfielder: caicedo
fullback playing inside: Reece or Gusto
two wingers: Mudryk or Jackson, Palmer
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Opposition Managers' Perspective
Opposition managers consistently praised Leicester City as being very well-coached under Enzo Maresca last season, regardless of the result.
Leicester's Decision
After relegation, Leicester owner wanted a new modern style of play and an ambitious young manager to change the team's identity
Maresca fit this criteria, despite being seen as a risk for a destabilized club due to his limited managerial experience
Maresca's Limited Experience
Had only 14 games as head coach at Parma in 2021, another relegated club trying to bounce back. Was sacked after 6 months at Parma
Preparation for life at new club and matches
Maresca is extremely committed and hungry to succeed, leaving no doubt about his dedication
He is meticulous and could be described as a workaholic
Before joining Leicester, he watched every game of their relegation season, sometimes multiple times, to analyze the team
His preparation involves extensive video analysis of upcoming opponents, studying their tactics
Maresca is a tactically-focused manager who emphasizes tactical training regimens
At Leicester, they did double training sessions on the field coupled with video analysis indoors
During pre-season, he lived at the training ground to fully immerse himself in the club. Instead of leisure activities, he spent evenings watching footage of his new team repeatedly
Training Methodology
He believes training must be dynamic and never boring to keep players engaged and curious
He aims to teach something new every day, regardless of the players' ages or experience
Video analysis sessions are limited to 50 minutes to maintain focus
Players must understand the rationale behind tactics, not just instructions
Tactical Preparation
Would identify the challenges created by a particular opponent and how his team could counter them, playing them out alone before presenting them to his staff and players.
Players Embracing Maresca's Style
Initially some fans were hesitant about Maresca's patient, possession-based approach
However, the players seemed to embrace and enjoy having more of the ball
Tactical System
Leicester played a 4-3-3 that became a 4-5-1 out of possession and 3-2-5 in possession
They dominated possession in most games this season
A fullback, usually Ricardo Pereira or Hamza Choudhury, would tuck into midfield
The two attacking midfielders pushed high to form a front five
Man-Management Style
He has an open-door policy and is friendly/jovial with his players
However, doesn't tolerate bad behavior or lack of respect towards him or staff
Likes being open and discussing general matters with players
Voicing Frustrations
He has publicly expressed frustrations at Leicester over financial rules, potential points deductions
Open about his dissatisfaction with the lack of January transfer activity
Doesn't hold back when expressing himself to the hierarchy or media
Can be sensitive and will need to grow a thick skin, especially with the intense scrutiny in the PL
Committed to own philosophy
Will be fully committed to preparing his team according to his tactical philosophy
He threatened to quit at Leicester if anyone questioned his "idea" after fans groaned during a patient win
Will not change his core approach, though he has subtle variations
His system features one main striker, one holding midfielder, a fullback tucking into midfield, and two wingers
This is "his way" and he believes in it wholeheartedly
Posted on 5/29/24 at 3:39 pm to supatigah
Chelsea usually dominated possession, except against the very top teams. His patient style of play will get old if we’re losing matches 1-0, 2-1, 2-0. That’s how Tuchel’s last games were- boring as hell and losing by a goal or two.
Not terribly excited by what I just read
Not terribly excited by what I just read
Posted on 5/29/24 at 4:48 pm to supatigah
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He has a plan A and will stick to it stubbornly.
This has to be the lamest critique of soccer coaches. As if you can just signal in new tactics from the sidelines like it’s basketball or football. Potter was famous for having many different systems and look how that worked out.
Any time we ever lost under Bielsa “He HaS nO pLaN B!”
Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:26 pm to S
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