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Can someone simply explain offsides
Posted on 8/10/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 12:13 pm
Because I don't get it. I cannot figure it out even on replay
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Posted on 8/10/24 at 12:18 pm to bleedsgarnet
A player can't be ahead of both the ball and the last defender.
Posted on 8/10/24 at 12:21 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:it is actually the second to last defender (a goalie is usually still in front of the last field defender) and it’s determined at the exact moment the ball is played. You also cannot be offside in your own half.
A player can't be ahead of both the ball and the last defender.
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 12:25 pm to Bestbank Tiger
in general, a player is offside if they are in the attacking half and closer to the other team's goal line than both the ball and the second to last opponent.
This post was edited on 8/10/24 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 8/10/24 at 2:52 pm to TFTC
Thanks...I saw the goal in the match today and saw nothing wrong but the brazillian girls complained
Posted on 8/11/24 at 12:31 am to Bestbank Tiger
quote:
A player can't be ahead of both the ball and the last defender.
2nd to last defender.
The goal keeper counts as a defender.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 9:55 am to dgnx6
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The goal keeper counts as a defender.
If the keeper is pulled forward is it still 2nd to last defender?
Posted on 8/11/24 at 10:35 am to bad93ex
Yes
Posted on 8/11/24 at 11:53 am to bad93ex
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If the keeper is pulled forward is it still 2nd to last defender?
Yep. For instance, if the keeper moves up ahead of the closest defender, then he can become the second to last defender.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 1:28 pm to bleedsgarnet
For starters it’s offside
Not offsides
Not offsides
Posted on 8/11/24 at 2:31 pm to bleedsgarnet
the ball has to be the first thing that passes the second to last defender.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 6:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Unless I’m losing my mind the offensive player can definitely pass the defender before the ball does as long as they weren’t beyond the defender when the ball was played to them.
the ball has to be the first thing that passes the second to last defender.
Posted on 8/11/24 at 6:33 pm to MOT
you’re right but that’s pretty rare.
i’ve just found that as an effective way to explain to someone who asks what offside is
i’ve just found that as an effective way to explain to someone who asks what offside is
Posted on 8/12/24 at 6:27 am to Draconian Sanctions
And to the op’s point about Brazil complaining on the goal..that’s the default reaction for defenders. I do think one of the two American forward players was off but she let it roll to the player who wasn’t and she’s the one who scored.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:57 am to MOT
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And to the op’s point about Brazil complaining on the goal..that’s the default reaction for defenders. I do think one of the two American forward players was off but she let it roll to the player who wasn’t and she’s the one who scored.
I’ve played and loved soccer my whole life and they do tinker with the rules so this may have changed but the player who was offside definitely ran towards the ball to play it. That used to mean it was offside because it creates decisions from the defender based upon a player offside. Is that no longer the rule - ie the offside player now has to actually play the ball to be considered offside? Not just go for it?
Posted on 8/12/24 at 8:54 am to Tigerstark
Not sure. I never played so everything I’ve mentioned has been from watching my kid’s games and following Leeds closely for the last few years. What I mentioned above is my conclusion on the goal being allowed even after the VAR check because the one player definitely looked to be off.
It does seem like players being interpreted as involved or not involved in the build up or goals has been a point of contention in a lot of VAR decisions, but I don’t know if that’s because of the rule allowing for gray area, not being specific, not written with the intention of super slow mo reviews, etc. Maybe someone more familiar can weigh in.
It does seem like players being interpreted as involved or not involved in the build up or goals has been a point of contention in a lot of VAR decisions, but I don’t know if that’s because of the rule allowing for gray area, not being specific, not written with the intention of super slow mo reviews, etc. Maybe someone more familiar can weigh in.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 10:00 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
you’re right but that’s pretty rare.
It's really not rare at all
Posted on 8/12/24 at 11:05 am to saderade
quote:
it is actually the second to last defender (a goalie is usually still in front of the last field defender) and it’s determined at the exact moment the ball is played. You also cannot be offside in your own half.
This is the best description the thread. There are a few other minor exceptions, including receiving the ball directly from throw-in or corner.
Also, there is a difference between being in an offside position and the actual offside penalty. The rules gets really complicated, but simply, it's not an offside penalty if a player in an offside position doesn't touch the ball, attempt to touch the ball, or interfere with an opponent.
This is what happened in the gold medal match.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 11:18 am to MOT
See my previous post. To kinda answer your question, new tech has really simplified the direct touch offside penalty, even though I hate it when a player is in an offside position by half a fingernail.
There are a number of specific rules for what is considered becoming involved in the action if you are in an offside position. But those rules are very subject to view of the referee.
There are a number of specific rules for what is considered becoming involved in the action if you are in an offside position. But those rules are very subject to view of the referee.
Posted on 8/13/24 at 10:06 am to TFTC
Can’t be offsides on throw ins
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