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re: Arsenal 18/19 Season Thread

Posted on 3/2/19 at 8:47 am to
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 8:47 am to
To all the downvoting retards in here who have no idea what the rules are —

The second decision was also correctly made on the basis of the Laws of the Game (Law 11 – Offside) which stipulates: “if a player in an offside position is moving towards the ball with the intention of playing the ball and is fouled before playing or attempting to play the ball, or challenging an opponent for the ball, the foul is penalised as it has occurred before the offside offence”.
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 8:47 am to
Sure was a fun one to watch.
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:09 am to
quote:

The second decision was also correctly made on the basis of the Laws of the Game (Law 11 – Offside) which stipulates: “if a player in an offside position is moving towards the ball with the intention of playing the ball and is fouled before playing or attempting to play the ball, or challenging an opponent for the ball, the foul is penalised as it has occurred before the offside offence”.


Im sorry but you are wrong. Your own quote shows that you are wrong.
This post was edited on 3/2/19 at 9:10 am
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:16 am to
It was a penalty by the rules. I’m not wrong.

You need to quit being blind.

ETA: I don’t have a dog in this fight lol. Idc what the result is. The rule is shite, but it was called correctly.
This post was edited on 3/2/19 at 9:18 am
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:21 am to
quote:

It was a penalty by the rules. I’m not wrong.



No you are definitely wrong.

quote:

You need to quit being blind.



Im not being remotely blind. I already said Taylor got his portion of the call right and Auba's foul was not a penalty.

You need to just reread the very rule you quoted.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:27 am to
I'm going to assume that you believe Kane attempted to play the ball, making him offsides?

Just watched the video again. Mustafi seems to make the challenge just before Kane attempts to actually head the ball.
It's really close though. FWIW, I'd be okay with calling offsides in that situation.
This post was edited on 3/2/19 at 9:30 am
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:29 am to
100%. In fact I'm confused how that's even a question for some (not you per se).
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:32 am to
Yeah.
Just depends on your definition of "attempted."

He obviously had intention to play it, but did he actually attempt a header is the only question.

I'm biased towards Spurs and even I'm conflicted with this call.
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 12:03 pm to
Mustafi can't be gone soon enough; that guy is a total disaster
Posted by etm512
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 12:41 pm to
Aaron Ramsey out here killing 90s celebrities with his goal this weekend
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

You need to just reread the very rule you quoted.
Technically he's not offside until he actually touches the ball. The rules states if he's fouled before touching the ball it's still a penalty (even though he was in an offside position). Stupid arse rule.

Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

Just watched the video again. Mustafi seems to make the challenge just before Kane attempts to actually head the ball.
It's really close though. FWIW, I'd be okay with calling offsides in that situation.


He's offside, he doesn't get the ball because of the push, the ball then hits mustafi on the head. Mustafi is trash and it was a foul but Kane is off as soon as he and kosc jump for that header.

That doesn't even piss me off as much, Rose should have bent sent off for either a straight red or a second yellow. His dive in the first half was fricking pathetic.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

Technically he's not offside until he actually touches the ball. The rules states if he's fouled before touching the ball it's still a penalty (even though he was in an offside position). Stupid arse rule.


They call offsides all the time without someone touching it.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:48 pm to
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Rose should have bent sent off for either a straight red or a second yellow.

I'm not disagreeing with you there, easily could have been sent off for the challenge on Leno.
But in that case you have to say Xhaka should've at least gotten a yellow/red for his challenge to the back of Kane's knee.

Because at least Rose was attempting to play the ball. I have no idea what Xhaka was trying to do.
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 2:50 pm
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

But in that case you have to say Xhaka should've at least gotten a yellow/red for his challenge to the back of Kane's knee.


Has anyone even disagreed with that? I think most Arsenal fans would say it should've been a card. If we are playing that game, then, sure, we'll say that. Then Xhaka would have to play differently for most of the game with a yellow while Arsenal dominates possession in a game with man advantage.
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 2:52 pm
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:51 pm to
I dont think so.

Just throwing it out there that there was a lot of questionable decisions in this one and Anthony Taylor was being extremely lenient.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Because at least Rose was attempting to play the ball. I have no idea what Xhaka was trying to do.


And torreira actually played the ball. Straight red.

I just want consistency.


Also want to point out sokratis has owned Kane. He has turned out to be a good signing.
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 2:58 pm
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Also want to point out sokratis has owned Kane

Yeah, he was quiet all match so fair point.

However, the overall played/goals scored between them is 3 games / 4 goals (2 being penalties so take that fwiw)
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 3:16 pm
Posted by DB10_AFC
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:16 pm to
The only ref in England that isn't a complete fool is Micheal Oliver. They constantly get the big decisions wrong. And I'm not saying we haven't benefited from some of the bad calls.
Posted by bbap
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Member since Feb 2006
96012 posts
Posted on 3/5/19 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Technically he's not offside until he actually touches the ball.


Im sorry but that's just not true.
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