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re: A Look back at the 23 / Player grades

Posted on 7/2/14 at 8:51 am to
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 8:51 am to
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Dempsey's play leading up to the World Cup was about as complacent as you could be.

You talking about the send off games or for his club? He playing great for Seattle.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25826 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 8:56 am to
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I think Omar played better than you give him credit for. He started against Belgium and Germany mainly because of crosses to their tall players. I think he did a good job of that. He got caught out of position a few times but he made up for it well for the most part. Could have done better on the ball, but no one has ever considered him to be a distributer.


Yes he was fine - he did yeoman's work for us. Besler and Cameron had the critical derps that lead to goals.

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I think Bradley did better than most people give him credit for. He did well on the defensive end and played out of position most of the time. Made some great passes throughout the tournament. He was much better on the ball against Belgium than Jones was.


He did well yesterday and vs Portugal other than the last second mistake. He was fine too just a bit out of position. He is not a #10 and we all know it now...
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:01 am to
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first up
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Gonzo - D+
You seriously have it in for this guy.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:06 am to


he was poor out there

but whatever im over it we will have someone better in 2018
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25826 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:10 am to
You should save your energy for the reasons we are out of this WC tho:

Midfield and wing lack of quality (Brad Davis is this year's Robbie Findley)
No Altidore backup

I still blame Cameron for the Portugal draw as well - our WC went to shite after the Varela equalizer.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:33 am to
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No Altidore backup



T Boyd

no wondo
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:53 am to
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StraightCashHomey21

You're way too critical of Gonzalez, and I'm not even a fan of his.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:56 am to
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You're way too critical of Gonzalez, and I'm not even a fan of his.



Its the CB in me
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15979 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:57 am to
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I LOL at everyone complaining about Gonzo's positioning.

Everyone acts like our midfield and attackers make it so easy on our backline. Our amount of possession in the midfield is AIDS. Gonzo and Besler were under siege the entire 200+ minutes vs Germany and Belgium.
this

Also JJ has a pretty bad game against Belgium. Midfield was awful
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:58 am to
Yeah, Jones was a turnover machine vs. Belgium.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:00 am to
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Also JJ has a pretty bad game against Belgium. Midfield was awful




Cameron should have never been in the midfield the experiment with im in there and gonzo paired with besler didn't work.

They were out of sync, we had a unit that was working and messed with it and it backfired.
This post was edited on 7/2/14 at 10:01 am
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:26 am to
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But on the other hand, I actually liked not bringing Donovan.
Donovan wasn't missed for his skills or attitude, but the U.S. definitely missed his athleticism.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:31 am to
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Cameron should have never been in the midfield the experiment with im in there and gonzo paired with besler didn't work.

We should have kept Beckerman in. If we wanted to really go for it offensively we should have put Cameron at RB and FJ at RW and played a 4-2-3-1.
Posted by petar
Miami
Member since May 2009
5989 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:56 am to
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We should have kept Beckerman in.


Unfortunately i agree.. Even though i thought cameron did alright.

Anyone not giving Tim Howard an A+, Fab Johnson at least an A-, and Beasley at least a B+ is not doing this correctly. Those three players played great

Tim howard maybe made one glaring mistake and he immediately saved himself (when it hit off the post and he should have caught it)
Fabian played outstanding. played well defensively and was as much as a consistent offensive as anyone else on the team
DmB played better than i could have ever expected. Hustled and never really messed up defensively

Other than that Jones, Yedlin, Beckerman, Bradley should all get good marks as well.
Omar should not get as low as indicated by some but I don't necessarily think he or Besler played that well in this cup and definitely did not play well yesterday
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21061 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:57 am to
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Donovan wasn't missed for his skills


Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:04 am to
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petar

Agree for the most part but I thought that Besler was very, very solid for us, with the exception of yesterday.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:06 am to
Do you think Landon Donovan would have seriously changed the possession time to the United States' benefit? Would he have made passes that no other player could make, or held the ball allowing better offensive opportunities? I don't think so. But I do think his athleticism would have allowed him to be on the receiving end of some passes that our lesser athletes were beaten to. And the threat of his athleticism would have forced defensive adjustments from our opponents.
Posted by petar
Miami
Member since May 2009
5989 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:11 am to
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I thought that Besler was very, very solid for us, with the exception of yesterday.


yea I actually agree. I was impressed with how he played. Plus they were bombarded for 80 minutes against Ghana and 90 minutes against germany and for 80 minutes against belgium.

But yesterday that was awful. They both looked like they had tired legs and looked slow. Granted they did not receive much help.

That unfortunately is still stuck in my mind ya know
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:18 am to
Donovan has smart movement and a great poacher's instinct as well. He can also still beat people on the dribble and play a killer pass. He would have been useful in Brazil, imo.
Posted by JohnZeroQ
Pelicans of Lafourche
Member since Jan 2012
8536 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:20 am to
Jermaine Jones impressed me the most... save for Tim "American Badass" Howard

Love much of the potential you point out.


I just don't see many people giving Jermaine Jones props.

Dude was filthy
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