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re: Zelensky Says He Won’t Hold Elections Unless U.S. and EU Pay for Them

Posted on 8/28/23 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 4:09 pm to
Correction, I misspoke.

The laws banning opposition parties were just made, not elections. In 2022 law was passed that states any party that questions the government’s execution or performance of war is banned.

Elections are not allowed while martial law is in effect. That has been the case for many years, a long time in fact. Martial law has to be extended every so often, I’m not sure how often. While suspending elections during war time is conceivably understandable, this is a problem because the government in power could simply continue extending martial law, thereby rendering themselves unaccountable.

The US government could do this after 9/11, for example. Or a pandemic. It’s undemocratic.

But Ukraine has never really been democratic.
Posted by ninthward
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 4:13 pm to
dp'd
This post was edited on 8/28/23 at 4:14 pm
Posted by ninthward
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 4:13 pm to
pay for my elections so I will stay in power or Ill stay in power.


*boy, this sure didn't plan out as expected
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 4:19 pm to
Why wouldn't he ask? We're paying for everything else....
Posted by Demonbengal
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 4:21 pm to
Zelenskyy used to use his penis to play the piano. Now he uses to screw the US taxpayers. What he has done is impressive really. It would be like Paula Shore ascending to president here.
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 4:23 pm to
sounds like Biden is still at work in Ukraine
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 4:37 pm to
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sounds like Biden is still at work in Ukraine


Are you saying that Biden meets LBJ's definition of an "honest Mexican"?
Posted by financetiger38
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 4:56 pm to
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How weak does Russia look at this point that this "war" is still going on?

Considering like 15 different countries are propping their enemies up in a proxy war I’d say not very
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 5:04 pm to
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objecting to Zelensky decision to delay objections is supporting Ukrainian democracy


What sort of mental gymnastics does it take to arrive at this conclusion? So not holding democratic elections is now a sign of democracy? This sounds every bit as retarded as the left claiming that if Trump wins a democratic election it’s the “end of democracy”
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 5:36 pm to

quote:

Zelensky Says He Won’t Hold Elections Unless U.S. and EU Pay for Them



Posted by tigersmanager
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 7:11 pm to
Only crazy people think like that
Posted by bamadontcare
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 7:17 pm to
There is no Deep State.
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 7:33 pm to
he's truly made them his b*tch.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 8:28 pm to
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He has the proof and has a lot of our politicians by the short hairs. Hillarious.


I wonder how much Biden is clowned by other world leaders. Then again, many of them are globalist clowns as well.
Posted by VictoryTiger
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 8:32 pm to
Deploy you little boy. Putin hasn’t even beaten the modern warfare 2 campaign on veteran, so you should be able to save the country you love. What exactly are you waiting for? Save your trump jokes for your return after deployment, thanks
Posted by VictoryTiger
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Posted on 8/28/23 at 8:34 pm to
Dude is straight up retarded. It sounds like he’s on heroin or some other hard narcotic. He’s the real patriot here, though!
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 8/29/23 at 10:23 am to
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Elections are not allowed while martial law is in effect. That has been the case for many years, a long time in fact. Martial law has to be extended every so often, I’m not sure how often. While suspending elections during war time is conceivably understandable, this is a problem because the government in power could simply continue extending martial law, thereby rendering themselves unaccountable.


Sticking strictly to Ukraine since martial laws differ from country to country. In Ukraine elections are not allowed to be held under martial law. Martial law in Ukraine can only last 90 days without the Rada approving an extension. Martial law was declared by Zelensky in Feb 2022 and approved by the Rada. The Rada has then been extending the marital law every 90 days. The basis for the martial law decree can also be challenged in court by any citizen. If the basis is found not to meet the threshold for marital law then the martial law decree is null and void. Obviously there are a few holes in this since Ukraine's Rada just requires a simple majority to extend the martial law and Ukraine's courts have a reputation of corruption. However, the threat to Ukraine requiring martial law is real and ongoing so problems you mention are not a problem yet. They would only be a problem after peace.
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