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re: Zelensky “if we don’t get the aid we will lose the war.”

Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by PaulieWalnuts85
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:36 pm to
There’s always got to be a faraway enemy to distract from the criminal government right here at home. That’s the 1984 playbook
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22752 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:37 pm to
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the simple fact that they cannot continue to fight and defend themselves without our materiel is not one of those reasons.
why?
Posted by Antoninus
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:42 pm to
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There may well be valid reasons to not aid Ukraine including budgetary matters and questions whether it is in our national interest, but the simple fact that they cannot continue to fight and defend themselves without our materiel is not one of those reasons.
why?.
Because it is illogical.

"No aid, because we cannot afford it"
Logical

"No aid, because we have no strategic interest in your country"
Logical, if true

"No aid, because we like Russia better than we like you"
Arguably logical

"No aid, because we only help countries that do not need our help."
Illogical (in the extreme)
Posted by Spoonbilla
Member since Aug 2022
874 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:42 pm to
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You seem to be a very hostile person.


I am sorry that you perceived it that way. I am not mad at you. I pity you. I am mad at my generation that failed you, if anything.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:44 pm to
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“if we don’t get the aid we will lose the war.”


"And if we do get the aid we will go into a tie and play overtime for about 10 years. Then I'm going to hand it off to another guy and I'll retire to Switzerland because that's where I do my banking."
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25448 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:50 pm to
I am so fricking tired of Ukraine's bullshite. We should just call Russia and ask if they need any help taking over, and let them just ramrod Ukraine.

Why are we sending so much fricking money to this armpit?!
Posted by PaulieWalnuts85
Member since Sep 2023
25 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:53 pm to
American patriot Christians have more in common with Russia and other nations in Eastern Europe than the democrats here and most of the rest of the new world order. Could be the reason they’re terrified of them and blame Russia for almost everything
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:54 pm to
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“if we don’t get the aid we will lose the war.”



Posted by Antoninus
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 1:59 pm to
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American patriot Christians have more in common with Russia and other nations in Eastern Europe than the democrats here
Russia is 73% Christian, and Ukraine is 85% Christian.

By your logic, is the US not acting correctly by supporting Ukraine?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 2:00 pm to
Not seeing the downside here.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 2:09 pm to
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American patriot Christians have more in common with Russia and other nations in Eastern Europe than the democrats here

quote:

Russia is 73% Christian, and Ukraine is 85% Christian. By your logic, is the US not acting correctly by supporting Ukraine?


No, I think by his logic, we shouldn’t be helping them kill each other.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25448 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 2:20 pm to
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Zelensky “if we don’t get the aid we will lose the war.”


I'm ready for Ukraine to lose. If I have to see fricking Zelensky in the US with his hands out one more time, I'd be in favor of nuking Ukraine ourselves.

Stop begging, bitch. Go shake your cup around Europe. I'm tired of funding this fricking bullshite.
Posted by HughsWorkPhone
Member since Sep 2017
1478 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 2:22 pm to
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Zelensky “if we don’t get the aid we will lose the war.”


Since it’s no aid = lose war, he needs to show aid = wins war or it’s just a bottomless pit
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 2:27 pm to
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Stop begging, bitch. Go shake your cup around Europe
During 2022 and 2023, he has visited almost every major European capital, most of them multiple times.

European countries have provided 68 billion euros of aid, while the US has provided about 71 billion.

Given that our GDP is almost twice that of Europe, they are contributing proportionately more than we are, by a significant sum.

He has visited:
Britain
Poland
Germany
France
Belgium
Finland
Netherlands
Italy
Vatican
Moldova
Bulgaria
Czechia
Slovakia
Turkey
Lithuania
Sweden
Denmark
Greece
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 3:17 pm
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19141 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:53 pm to
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Zelensky “if we don’t get the aid we will lose the war.”

Good! Maybe it will bring peace.
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Screamin Jay
Member since Sep 2023
537 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 3:55 pm to
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Zelensky “if we don’t get the aid we will lose the war.”
GOOD!

I hope they televise this "Israelite's" hanging.

Nah...he will flee to Israel and leave his people to suffer.

Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5912 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 6:23 pm to
It`s all fake the zelensky guy is an actor
Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
3722 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 6:27 pm to
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We should just call Russia and ask if they need any help taking over, and let them just ramrod Ukraine.


Best heel turn, ever.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11168 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 6:38 pm to
We should just buy Ukraine and make it a colony. Then we can send all the illegal immigrants there for asylum.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
23171 posts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 6:42 pm to
The terms are acceptable. No more money for Ukraine
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