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re: You should visit a homogenous, high trust country at least once

Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:43 am to
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:43 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:45 am to
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If America was racially homogeneous

American was effectively never racially homogeneous.

When America was founded in 1789, there was a higher % of black people than today (roughly 13% today v. 18% then).

I don't know why you keep trying to push the conversation into some weird racial hypothetical that could never exist and has nothing to do with OP.

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Those non-white countries that are higher, are they black and brown countries?

OH so now your racial divide moves on from non-white

You can't even keep your arguments straight
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:46 am to
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What made us a superpower was being the largest, most industrialized nation on Earth, that did not get bombed to shite in the 1940's.


Size, resources, immigration, Anglo culture, etc. It's a bunch of variables that set us up.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:46 am to
You claiming Utah is homogenous and amazing is the most hilarious
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:48 am to
Well, it's not as homogenous and amazing as Idaho, but Utah is certainly close in that regard.

Much closer than any state in the southern US. By a very, very long way. For the reason we all know it is.

This post was edited on 10/2/26 at 7:49 am
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:48 am to
There are many places in America that really provide the "this is how it should be" feeling 24/7. Like Japan, you do know what is missing.
Posted by UtahCajun
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:49 am to
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Well, it's not as homogenous and amazing as Idaho, but Utah is certainly close in that regard

Sure

As long as you don't go to West Valley, Ogden, South SLC, Rose Park, Woods Cross and many other places.
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:50 am to
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American was effectively never racially homogeneous.


This isn't a true false outcome scenario.

A 90% white nation is much more homogeneous and contains higher trust than the 60%ish version we see today.

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OH so now your racial divide moves on from non-white


NOW?

This was my first response to you...

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"A homogenously white America didn't have a superpower economic future. The blacks and browns we've imported are what got us where we are today."
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:50 am to
Utah Salt Lake especially is a traffickers paradise

I prefer Idaho of the 2
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:51 am to
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What made us a superpower was being the largest, most industrialized nation on Earth, that did not get bombed to shite in the 1940's.


Didn't know Africa was bombed to shite in the 40s.

Damn. If not they'd have been Wakanda...
Posted by ronricks
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:51 am to
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Japan isn’t a thriving country but a country that’s dying off. It’s an aging country with less and less children.

With AI, Automation, Advanced Robotics on the horizon homogenous countries like Japan and South Korea will be just fine. The idea that their population will become extinct isn't based in reality and is being pushed by the very same people who think importing low IQ, uneducated, unskilled Third Worlders into North America and Europe is a 'solution' and not the problem. Japan and Korea will remain very nice places to live with very little to no crime, great education systems and not having a bunch of different religious zealots screwing up the country like we have.

If you want to see a country that is completely fricked see The Unites States which has anywhere from 20 to 40 million Illegal Immigrants, invading Muslims and Hindu's etc. Japen and South Korea don't and won't ever have those problems.
Posted by UtahCajun
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:52 am to
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Size, resources, immigration, Anglo culture, etc. It's a bunch of variables that set us up.

I read about the shear amount of coal deposits in tUSA and what a frickup it was for the British to put up a half-assed fight while keeping a stranglehold on India was the very worst choice the empire ever made.

That was a big first step to superpowerdom. The railroads were the next.
Posted by UtahCajun
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:53 am to
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Didn't know Africa was bombed to shite in the 40s.


It was not even close to the industrialization as we were. That was a lot of straw my man

And I know that you know Africa is not just one nation....
This post was edited on 10/2/26 at 7:54 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:55 am to
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A 90% white nation is much more homogeneous and contains higher trust than the 60%ish version we see today.

We weren't 90% in 1789

And the big difference today is a group of people who were considered white until a few decades ago (Latinos), not black people.

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NOW?

You previously used "non-white"

Now you're specifying the racism to be anti black and brown, because your "non-white "standard was shown to be suboptimal in terms of IQ

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"A homogenously white America didn't have a superpower economic future. The blacks and browns we've imported are what got us where we are today."


Yes I bolded your use of white on your ridiculous post

Here is another one

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If a homogeneously white society


And another

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So a homogeneously white society


Your words.

Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:55 am to
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It was not even close to the industrialization as we were.


1.) That wasn't part of your criteria.

2.) The reason it wasn't industrialized is the crux of this conversation.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:56 am to
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I read about the shear amount of coal deposits in tUSA and what a frickup it was for the British to put up a half-assed fight while keeping a stranglehold on India was the very worst choice the empire ever made.

That was a big first step to superpowerdom. The railroads were the next.


Land, timber, meat, coal, oil, etc.

The UK really fricked up losing this land

I forgot a major contemporaneous one to the revolutionary period: FURS
This post was edited on 10/2/26 at 7:57 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:57 am to
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2.) The reason it wasn't industrialized is the crux of this conversation.

Colonization happened a few centuries after America and Latin America, and before it could be fully industrialized via colonialization Europe stopped being imperial (due to the same variables that caused Europe to be bombed no less)
Posted by UtahCajun
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 7:58 am to
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That wasn't part of your criteria.

Re-read exactly what I said. I will quote it for you.
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What made us a superpower was being the largest, most industrialized nation on Earth, that did not get bombed to shite in the 1940's

See what I bolded? Most industrialized was the only criteria dawg.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:00 am to
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See what I bolded? Most industrialized was the only criteria dawg.

He's flailing

He came in hot with silliness and is pivoting into absurdity
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:00 am to
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We weren't 90% in 1789


We were 88% white in the 1900s

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You previously used "non-white"


Where?

My point has been pretty clear. Inviting in random black and brown populations isn't good for the country. Notice I didn't say "non-whites", I was clear from the start. So you can point to China and Japan and the like all you want but you're not arguing with me. People from those societies are, on average, a boon to our own. Black and brown populations are not.
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