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re: You HOA lovers care to defend this?

Posted on 6/1/25 at 5:06 am to
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10206 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 5:06 am to
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the Countryside Villas PUD3 HOA has filed a lawsuit against the unnamed veteran, claiming he failed to obtain the required approval before erecting the permanent structure. 


You obviously missed this part. Living in an HOA is a pain in the arse ,but again if you live there that is on you. They have rules most are very strict and most will enforce everything and they are ridiculous ,but he signed up for that.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63402 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 5:37 am to
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And they're sueing him despite both a federal and state law that prohibit HOAs banning homeowners from flying the US flag.



It's not about the flag, it's about the pole.

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In a letter sent to the veteran, the association emphasized that it was not denying his right to fly the American flag, but rather enforcing a policy requiring prior approval for permanent flagpoles. The letter noted that the veteran’s military service does not exempt him from these rules.


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Jennifer Englert told WOFL-TV that this action may not be legally defensible. Englert explained that Florida statute says as long as the flagpole is under 20 feet, a homeowner can have a flagpole on their property, even if the HOA has rules against it.

"Why are you fighting about something that you know you have to allow? That is very clear," she said.





This post was edited on 6/1/25 at 5:50 am
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
10387 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 6:05 am to
I don't like paying money to be told what to do. Without one, my neighborhood is fine wrt security, upkeep, etc.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38341 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 7:18 am to
Time for the ACLU to step in. (Sure, sure)
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
12686 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:16 am to
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Never ceases to amaze me that people want to buy a house in a nice neighborhood and then bitch about getting a letter for putting their trash on the curb three days before pick up.


This is America no matter what neighborhood you live in.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13521 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:12 pm to
Sounds like they're going to lose and ol dude will get paid. Let them FA and FO.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12742 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:19 pm to
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HOA lovers

Is that a thing?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61428 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:23 pm to
I think it sucks. We have an HOA, they are almost non existent. They patrol the yard sign and the trailer/RV parking thing pretty hard. Rarely do they get someone for maintenance. We do have a disabled guy in a motorized wheel chair that has set up one of those gazebos in his driveway that now serves as his hangout, crawfish boiling, grilling spot. I guess they are just letting him roll with it.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29223 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 12:56 pm to
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If you want to fly a flag, put it on the front of your house like a normal person. Those guys who try to make their house look like an official building with the flagpole are eyesores.



And what if it's a gay/tranny pride flag? An even bigger eyesore.

To me, it's not altogether unlike the school prayer debate. Advocates of prayer in public school usually take for granted the type of prayer that would be said, never considering that it might be a Muslim prayer on occasion, for example.
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
2287 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:36 pm to
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Do you think a landlord could put a clause in the lease that specifies oral sex is required if the rent is late?


I've seen this movie.

Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 9:12 pm to
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Is that a thing?


Of course. Just look at the people defending the HOA in this thread. They are the same ones who champion the police state, TSA, and Patriot Act. The thought of life with no overlord direction is terrifying to them.
Posted by jscrims
Lost
Member since May 2008
3809 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 5:22 am to
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That HOA is clearly wrong.


Look, it is a bad take but the HOA is technically not wrong. They aren’t suing for the flag pole. They are suing because they didn’t their money from their architectural review board aka neighbors approving stuff you can/can’t put up and charging a fee for the approval. He did not fill out the necessary and required paperwork and pay the fees so that is what they are going after. It isn’t about the flag pole, it is about doing something outside of the covenants that you agreed to when you signed up to live there.


That being said, it was $50 and has turned into $8,000. The HOA clearly escalated this beyond reason.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56549 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 6:00 am to
HOA’s are only as good as the people who run them…

Do you need a blend of common sense and toughness to be on the board… you gotta put up with a lot of BS…

My HOA? I wish they would do more to keep properties better maintained around us… Home values have skyrocketed from under 300,000 in 2005 to about 800,000…

Our community is now 30 years. Old property values are between 650 and $800,000. That’s a lot of money but I can tell you as you drive around a lot of the houses certainly don’t look like they’re worth anywhere near that value because the Landscaping is not very good….

So no, I don’t defend the HOA being stupid over a flag

An American flag should be just fine. It must be. Perhaps they don’t like the large pole? I don’t know the details. I don’t care.

I fly my American flag year-round

Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6478 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 6:07 am to
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As I suspected, this is one of those flagpoles in the front yard.

If you want to fly a flag, put it on the front of your house like a normal person. Those guys who try to make their house look like an official building with the flagpole are eyesores.

There is a difference.


This isn't communist China. If the man wants to fly the flag of the United States of America, then I fully support him.

Every other person in that neighborhood that disagrees with the HOA should put up their own flagpole in the front yard to make a statement.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 6:44 am to
I despise HOA‘s. But if you read the article, you’ll see the lawsuit is not about him flying the flag. They do not outlaw flags or flag poles. You simply have to obtain prior written approval, which he did not. The simple solution would be for the HOA to offer him retroactive approval if he filled out the paperwork. I do not see that they did that in the article. They suck.

Something similar happened with our HOA. A guy painted his door. The HOA threatened and eventually sued because the color wasn’t approved. He stood his ground. Ended up costing both him and the HOA thousands of dollars. The judge then approved an even uglier color. The HOA was not happy
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 6:47 am
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