re: You fringe believers have ruined the cause.

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You’re absolutely right, it is a two way street. I don’t disagree that the liberals on here haven’t been much better.

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A two way street? FB, twitter, and google are shutting down free speech and removing other social media options, but president Trump is a dictator and tyrant? You progs need to wake up.

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But every single liberal on this forum, has been referred to as commies, pedophiles, figs, or whores.

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I think that many of the posters here who support Trump consider themselves “liberals”, too. Trump was the first pro gay marriage Presidential candidate, for example and no one here called him any of the offensive names in your post.

Don’t try to claim the “liberal” high ground.

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Dumb mother frickers.

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Is your dumb arse going to melt for the next four years?

Fringe conspiracy theorists on either side can be discounted. What can’t be discounted is the lack of American values by even moderate democrats

Amazed at people that fight against

- protecting our borders
- lower taxes
- not killing unborn children
- not valuing laws as written

Those are the values voted against by moderate democrats. There is so much more but you get the gist.

Most people, on either side, have no idea what fringe believers think. You are giving people a lot more credit for being politically involved and knowledgeable than they are. How many conservative web sites do you think these center left people in your example ever look at? Probably none.

Actually you’re wrong. Trump never once supported gay marriage, and there are tons of interviews with him, where he specifically said he was against gay marriage. Try again.

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the conspiracy crap needs to go, there was enough involved that you don't have to reach for all these wack theories.

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I can't help but notice you omit which actual conspiracies " need to go ".

If you're speaking of the Trump + Russia collusion, or the 'interference ' of the 2016 election, by all means, yes.

And if you're speaking of the lie of Charlottesville, where Trump supposedly gave cover and praise for "NAZIS", again, I agree.

But it seems those and more establishment lies aren't being retracted , even a little.

Preach on. I love Trump and was really sad to see him lose. I hate the left wing nuts who put their whole lives’ energies into seeing Trump removed. But conspiracy theorists on this site are almost as bad as those left wing psychos. And they lost us the Senate. And hopefully that Senate loss doesn’t cost us the USSC. frick you morons. And I agree an untrustworthy media is a major part of the problem. frick them also. But frick you too.

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I consider myself center-left, and would have certainly liked to have engaged in civil discussions. But every single liberal on this forum, has been referred to as commies, pedophiles, figs, or whores.

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True Dat

I consider myself more conservative than most here, far more so than ever vote for anyone as morally depraved as DJT. Who considers the two party system as evil. That the 2nd is equal with free speech. That clean water, clean air, and freedom from excessive taxation are basic inalienable rights. And that endless welfare is immoral to everyone.

And every time you disagree with the group mind speak here you get labeled liberal and harassed across non-associated threads... and even different forums.