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re: “You can’t lie to the American people about affordability”

Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:21 am to
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11078 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:21 am to
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It all started with

Trump Admin injecting over 2 Trillion dollars into ‘economy’ over a 6 month span and on top of it:

Paying people to sit at home and not work
Shutting down supply chain
Allowing people to forgo mortgage payments, rent payments, credit card payments, student loan payments, car payments, etc.
Handing out PPP ‘loans’ that didn’t have to be paid back that were rife with fraud and corruption.

All of this over a cold. Trump started it and Biden continued it. Blaming this solely on Biden is delusional. Trump fricked this up from the get go and we haven’t recovered. Prices are not coming down at grocery store no matter how hard the MAGA cucks try to tell us to not believe our own eyes.
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
4056 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:25 am to
Exactly, technically Trump wasn’t “for” shut downs. But he is sure as hell didn’t try to stop them. And then incentivized it by giving out free crap.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466946 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:30 am to
The revisionist history about Trump and Covid is almost as bad as the revisionist history with MAGA and Epstein
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11078 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:31 am to
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The revisionist history about Trump and Covid is almost as bad as the revisionist history with MAGA and Epstein


There’s definitely a correlation between the two. The Epstein Files 180 by MAGA has to be one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
3143 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 8:32 am to
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One can argue that Trump is not responsible for the affordability crisis, and that the Trump Administration is enacting the best policies within its power to combat the crisis


Trump is attacking affordability on all fronts. He just removed tariffs on beef, fruit, and coffee. No other president did that.
Trump is going to give everyone stimulus checks so we can all afford nice things.
Biden never sent out checks when prices got high because of his tariffs.
This post was edited on 11/16/25 at 8:35 am
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
3143 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 8:45 am to
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You are so out of touch it’s crazy. We make $250k a year combined and home ownership is still a stretch. We have done everything right and are getting screwed - that’s the whole point of this thread


This is total BS. Only 6% percent of families in Louisiana make that much money or more per year. That would mean home ownership is out of reach for 94% of the population of the state.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
3143 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 8:52 am to
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If people quit buying stuff that they can’t afford in the first place, then things are a lot more affordable. Easy peasy


Back in 2017 the narrative was things only seem expensive because people splurge on avocado toast and Starbucks. Then it was because of Biden families can’t afford bread, milk, and eggs. Now we’re back to feeding kids breakfast is a lavish luxury.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297469 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 8:53 am to
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That's well over double what your tour bus driving gig pays today.


Youre such a petty little dipshit.

This is really eating your goat, and I love it. Tell me what else you want to know, I need some entertainment today.

You soy boys get so butthurt that people can actually do "man' stuff. Its so fricking funny.
quote:



Average in-state full-time tuition and fees in 1985 adjusted for inflation: $3,200
Average in-state full-time tuition and fees in 2025 $13,800


My granddaughter is taking 9 hours college credit right now, paid for it herself with her summer job. Shes also the captain of her debate team, taking 2 High School Classes, works, and somehow is doing better than you will ever do.

All youre admitting is you are not capable of doing the things men have done for centuries.

Youre just woefully incompetent, live off disability and dont understand how men do the things they do.
This post was edited on 11/16/25 at 8:56 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297469 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 9:01 am to
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You guys need to stop arguing about what constitutes a starter home and just look at price per square foot over time. Housing prices and building costs are insane nationally and the data backs it up


Housing wasnt terribly unaffordable until Covid except for regional fluctuations.

2020 will one day be remembered as the pivot that broke us. All that Covid money and time gave investors a chance to destroy the housing market, among other things.
This post was edited on 11/16/25 at 9:02 am
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32993 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 9:04 am to
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Inflation has slowed, as the data shows.

But I think the public expected prices to go back down to 2019 levels.

It doesn't work that way.
This is the truth of the matter.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297469 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 9:04 am to
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Please pay attention. We aren’t talking about “saving money on fixing stuff.” We’re discussing single-handedly purchasing property and building a whole arse house while attending college full-time


Indeed. While you sat around and fingered your own a-hole, I was out working as a teen making money.

I grew up poor, youre simply worthless and incapable. Good thing for disability.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
3143 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 9:04 am to
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n 1998 my wife and I passed on buying a house in California for 300K. That same house is now $2.5 million.....completley insane


I have a list of addresses that I looked at purchasing in multiple states prior to Covid. I look them up on the internet from time to time. In multiple places housing doubled or triple in less than 10 years.
Posted by roll to victory
Hoover, AL
Member since Aug 2018
1582 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 9:05 am to
The Buyden hangover will linger for a bit longer i suspect there will be light at the end of the tunnel in 2026 with grocery and gas prices. To the point the Trump admin has been lying about these numbers and frankly its pathetic, stop fabricating this BS to the American ppl!!
This post was edited on 11/16/25 at 1:04 pm
Posted by lungbuster06
Member since Dec 2014
729 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 9:27 am to
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my starter home i bought in 2001 came up on the mls last summer. i would be hard pressed to buy it now. and it's a 1000 sq ft 2br/1ba shitbox. bought it in 01 for 170k. it's 750k now. crazy


I bought my first home in 2007. 3br/1ba, 1090 sq ft, .77 acre for $75000. Put 10% down and had a 7.5% interest rate. Same home today was sold 6 months ago for $210k. With current interest rates, you don’t have to be a mathematical genius to understand that that same house payment would be nearly 3x today.

But it’s not just that, it’s property tax and insurance that’s killing me today in our new home. My monthly payment including escrow is now $650 more per month beginning 1/1/26, than when we moved into this house in 2021. All due to property tax reassessments and HO insurance going up 3x and not a single claim has been made.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
7132 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:25 am to
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There’s definitely a correlation between the two. The Epstein Files 180 by MAGA has to be one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen.


So what do you anti-MAGA stooges hope to find in the infamous "Epstein Files"? Do you really think there's a "gotcha piece" somewhere there to cast negative light on Trump..as if there wasn't enough already fabricated by the liberal lunatics.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297469 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:27 am to
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So what do you anti-MAGA stooges hope to find in the infamous "Epstein Files"?


The same reason you people used to support the release. Until Trump told you he would disown you.
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
1971 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:05 am to
Affordability is a real issue. The problem is neither side has an answer for it.I have watched the per pound price of ribeyes skyrocket since Covid. I know that Costco prices are better but their ribeyes taste funny. Democrats don’t want us eating real meat so they don’t care and the president is out of touch. He campaigned on bringing down prices and he hasn’t succeeded.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43034 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:20 am to
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Affordability is a real issue. The problem is neither side has an answer for it.I have watched the per pound price of ribeyes skyrocket since Covid. I know that Costco prices are better but their ribeyes taste funny. Democrats don’t want us eating real meat so they don’t care and the president is out of touch. He campaigned on bringing down prices and he hasn’t succeeded.


Its actually quite easy to get out of this mess:

1) End H1-B
2) Deport All Illegal Aliens
3) Outlaw anyone who isnt a breathing person from buying homes
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
7132 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:36 am to
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The same reason you people used to support the release. Until Trump told you he would disown you.


You people? As a man of color I take issue with your asinine comment. I can't speak for the entire MAGA crowd but I personally like to see total transparency in all things concerning our government.
If you a-holes would stop blocking the greatest president of my lifetime we would be in great shape.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43977 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:47 am to
Dumping a shitpile of stimulus money has gotten us where we are. Trump and Congress decided to double down on spending instead of doing what needs to be done. We are doomed to be Zimbabwe unless we course correct and quickly.
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