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re: Yes sir, let's get all twisted around an axle about 2,000 Americans who
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:49 am to Flats
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:49 am to Flats
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You've had a bleeding vag several times since your reinstatement over what you perceive as unequal treatment by admins. On a damned free message forum that impacts nobody, costs nothing, and is the cyber equivalent of a large water cooler discussion. This is the US federal justice system treating people grotesquely unequally for naked politics, and you think it's funny that someone gets pissed about it. Aren't you supposed to be a lawyer?
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Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:49 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:There is no "both sides" here.
This attempt by some to attempt to draw some moral equivalency with what we all saw with our own eyes over the course of months in the summer of 2020 with what we saw for a few hours on January 6th is textbook gaslighting...a term I hate btw, but it fits here.
If anything, we could easily conclude that the months of violent looting, complete lack of response, refusal to enforce laws, inspired the Januray 6th folks. At some point might become right. It certainly was in summer fall of 2020.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:51 am to AggieHank86
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Far Right
What exactly is this?
It's not opposition to the prosecution of the terrorist that burned down our cities. It is a question of why they were not arrested, thrown in jail without due process and charged with all sorts of terroristic charges.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:51 am to AggieHank86
quote:Name an governement or cultural institution the "far right" controls.
But the Far Left is real, correct?
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:53 am to GeauxTigerTM
That is a cool looking dog. Kind of like a long legged dachshund. What breed is he?
Looks a little like a Ridgeback, but the head is wrong and too fine-boned.
EDIT: Google of the pic says he is a Doberman. Never seen a fawn Doberman. Cool looking guy.
This post was edited on 6/10/22 at 9:57 am
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:54 am to Taxing Authority
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If anything, we could easily conclude that the months of violent looting, complete lack of response, refusal to enforce laws, inspired the Januray 6th folks.
I'm not sure I'd go with "inspired" but I'd bet my life that they made the reasonable assumption that if they did some of what they'd seen happen all summer long, but did so without damaging property and without violence there would be no issue. Why would they think otherwise...they'd seen police stand down and no real consequences for much worse all summer long.
The ONLY thing that would have kept them in check after that summer was the sobering understanding that we now have a two tier justice system which revolves around political affiliation. Had they known that, they may have acted different. Which at it's heart, is exactly what this is all about. Curb dissent from the political opposition out of fear of reprisals.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:57 am to AggieHank86
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What breed is he?
Dunno...I searched for "Dog stubbed tail."
Name on the file is "Adorable-Red-German-Pinscher-Male-Dog-With-Short-Tail" so maybe that?
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Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:02 am to wfallstiger
When the government murders citizens, revolt is justified.
When an election is held, domestic terrorism is not justified.
When an election is held, domestic terrorism is not justified.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:05 am to AggieHank86
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Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:06 am to Wolfhound45
None of you would be making these excuses if it had been BLM/Antifa.
And y’all know it.
And y’all know it.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:17 am to AggieHank86
"I simply do not understand this notion in the minds of the Far Right to the effect that anyone who wants to see the January 6 lawbreakers prosecuted would somehow be opposed to prosecution of the summer of love rioters.
Personally, I would like to see both groups of people prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."
I agree that both sets of rioters should be prosecuted, but what rankles some--even Trump critics like myself--is the fixation on 1/6 as if it were an armed insurrection that had any chance of overthrowing the government of the USA. It clearly was not. It was, no doubt, a riot, and the rioters who broke the law should be punished. The disrespect the rioters showed for our nation's Capitol can be be fairly viewed as an aggravating factor. But it is hard to accept the rhetoric and pearl clutching over 1/6 after our nation endured a summer of riots--with far more violence and property damage--but hardly a peep from the NYT, Wash Post, et al.
Personally, I would like to see both groups of people prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."
I agree that both sets of rioters should be prosecuted, but what rankles some--even Trump critics like myself--is the fixation on 1/6 as if it were an armed insurrection that had any chance of overthrowing the government of the USA. It clearly was not. It was, no doubt, a riot, and the rioters who broke the law should be punished. The disrespect the rioters showed for our nation's Capitol can be be fairly viewed as an aggravating factor. But it is hard to accept the rhetoric and pearl clutching over 1/6 after our nation endured a summer of riots--with far more violence and property damage--but hardly a peep from the NYT, Wash Post, et al.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:18 am to AggieHank86
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You seem to envision a graph of “conservatives” with np right tail (A). But you do believe that a graph is the Left (B) HAS such a tail.
You seem to think if the left goes full retard )they have) en masse that redefines the political spectrum to normalize their radicalism.
That's stupid and par for the course.
This post was edited on 6/10/22 at 10:19 am
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:18 am to Flats
quote:I did not say that the change was “funny.“ I said that it was “fascinating.“ If I had to ascribe an emotion, that emotion would probably be “sadness.“
you think it's funny that someone gets pissed about it
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:19 am to Decatur
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None of you would be making these excuses if it had been BLM/Antifa.
I don't see many excusing the behavior of the 1/6 protesters /rioters. What most are arguing is that the Dems are way, way overplaying/overstating 1/6, and that those arrested for their roles in 1/6 have been treated wildly out of step with norms, certainly in comparison to "protesters" that committed much more violence and did much more damage.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:21 am to 14&Counting
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You are basically an idiot who is embarrassing himself.
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That’s not very nice.
You are correct. Apologies. You are wrong, but you are not an idiot. This whole thing makes me mad and I shouldn’t say stuff like that. Sincerely.
BLM/Antifa was not a local issue when they (particularly BLM) was raising money and then donating to Democrat Party as part of its fundraising efforts for 2020 Election Cycle. It went to a PAC. Not the DNC directly. Did ACT BLUE use the funds it got - to pay travel expenses for these Antifa Lunatics with no
Discernible income to then go and burn down cities and otherwise spread mayhem in multiple swing states?
My problem is that the effort was clearly organized on a non-local level and there was no undertaking by federal law enforcement about what was CLEARLY organized “domestic extremism.”
Instead - responsible, nonviolent citizens like myself have been defamed as domestic extremists and white supremacists by an attempted smear campaign linking me to what is potentially a fake and orchestrated riot, generated maybe by actors in the government that I fund.
j6 is an outrage. The whole thing.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:23 am to xiv
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When the government murders citizens, revolt is justified.
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David Dorn, 77, was discovered on the sidewalk in front of Lee's Pawn & Jewelry in St. Louis around 2:30 a.m., said Police Commissioner John Hayden. He said Dorn, who retired from the St. Louis Police Department in 2007 and had been serving as police chief of Moline Acres, Missouri, since 2008, was killed when he apparently tried to stop the looting of the shop.
This post was edited on 6/10/22 at 10:29 am
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:24 am to Decatur
quote:They (antifa) WERE the ones who 'stormed the Capitol'
ANTIFA and BLM
Admit it if they were the ones that stormed the Capitol you’d be singing a completely different tune.
and you know it
Hired by the DNC
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:27 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:31 am to AggieHank86
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I did not say that the change was “funny.“ I said that it was “fascinating.“
As I said earlier, some people care about unequal treatment under federal law, some are more concerned with how they’re treated on a free Internet forum. To each his own.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:37 am to Wednesday
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I’m fine if they punish the people who trespassed. But it’s not ok under any form of federal or state law to send someone to federal prison for 2
Yrs for trespassing, especially if the person committed no violence in the trespassing act.
It’s also not ok to hold someone in prison for a year and a half when that person has not been charged, or when they are awaiting trial on a trespassing charge.
It’s especially not ok, when people whipped into a frenzy by fabricated narratives about cops hunting black people burn down a Wendy’s, murder other people, or cause a federal courthouse to go into lockdown for MONTHS - and not a fricking charge. No full scale attempt to monitor cell phone or credit card data. Not a smidgen of an inquiry as to whether these fricking dirtbags were organized by either public officials, or the BLM fundraisers turned into “Act Blue” PACs to re-elect progressives.
Seriously Hank. Do better. You’re usually better at the “both sides” deflection.
you aren’t playing devil’s advocate. You’re rationalizing corrupt, violent behavior that is ruining your country- and deteriorating the rule
Of law.
This is why I usually let Wednesday do my talking for me... Unless she doesn't get mean enough.
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