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re: Xi got exactly what he wanted - for China to be seen on equal footing as the US

Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:39 pm to
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To condense an incredibly complex top to bottom economic system to bombing your own country is silly.


Well aint that convenient.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:41 pm to
Hey we agree on something!
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 1:16 pm to
lol we own China - we control their oil now - This was a massive win for the us. They in the ones in decline.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 1:20 pm to
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lol we own China - we control their oil now


Wait, what did I miss? What about Iran and Russia?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44305 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 1:36 pm to
China is a better place than America.

-signed

Roger the commie
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44305 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 1:38 pm to
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Wait, what did I miss?


So China has no issues with supply concerning oil?

None?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44305 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 1:40 pm to
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You cant make the "Playing field level"


Correct, China is a communist government, and they will use state resources to run American businesses into the ground.

You support the commies.

I don’t.

This is the “free market,” that you claim.

Then again, you are a die hard China boy.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 2:25 pm to
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Correct, China is a communist government, and they will use state resources to run American businesses into the ground.
You can only believe this if you believe China’s communist form of government is superior to ours. You’re literally arguing they are defeating us with communism.

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You support the commies.
It actually sounds like you are?
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 2:25 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16154 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 2:30 pm to
Even AI generated, people in China are seeing this, and it is at least directionally correct
quote:

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Updated May 15, 2026, 21:14 IST
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This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 3:26 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 2:43 pm to
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So China has no issues with supply concerning oil?

None?


That wasn’t the claim, was it?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 2:46 pm to
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Correct, China is a communist government, and they will use state resources to run American businesses into the ground.


You seem to have more faith in the communist govt than American enterprise, if you believe this.

Communism fails. In your world its thriving.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44305 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 2:52 pm to
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You can only believe this if you believe China’s communist form of government is superior to ours.


Wrong.

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You’re literally arguing they are defeating us with communism


Wrong again.

Their system is an amalgamation of authoritarianism governance with a quasi capitalistic economic structure.

Ironically, their economic structure is more aligned with fascism than anything remotely communist. Their governmental structure allows them to manage their populace, and give state support to Chinese based companies if needed.

Again, if need be, it is (in essence) a state supported company versus an American company. Hell, even Google bailed. That speaks volumes to me.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44305 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 3:00 pm to
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You seem to have more faith in the communist govt than American enterprise, if you believe this.


If the communist government wants to support a company in order to run its American competitors out of business, they will do it.

I’ll give you an easy example:

Segway was an American company that was thriving.

Suddenly a Chinese company comes on the scene. Its product is virtually identical in every way.

Segway sued (pretty much a guaranteed loss in China) for IP Theft. In response(?), they bottom out their prices. Segway is hanging on by a thread. At that point, the Chinese company then magically pulls out a wad of cash, and buys Segway.

The result, the lawsuit is gone, so are American jobs, and China now dominates that market.

That is just one example. There are countless others.

Again, the myth of China participating in a “free market” is pure propaganda.

Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
20302 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 3:02 pm to
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for China to be seen on equal footing as the US


Will never be the case as long as they can't project power.

They failed 2 major allies in a span of 6 months. Venezuela and Iran.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55580 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 3:02 pm to
Who gives a shite how he was “seen”. Military and economic might determine the reality, and China is not close to the equal of the US in either.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 3:05 pm to
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If the communist government wants to support a company in order to run its American competitors out of business, they will do it.


They'll soon be broke. If The Chinese are subsidizing your consumer habits, youre winning.
Posted by LLeD
Member since Apr 2026
312 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 3:10 pm to
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...their economic structure is more aligned with fascism...
I wonder, why iranian shiits or muslim fanatics elswhere, have nothing against the genocide of the Uyghurs-muslims by the chinese commies.
Where are all the fighters against the "infidels"? Where are the all jihadists gone?
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 3:11 pm
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
24376 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 3:13 pm to
Speaking of footings…

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44305 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 3:14 pm to
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They'll soon be broke. If The Chinese are subsidizing your consumer habits, youre winning.


By creating virtual monopolies?

Are you serious?
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10702 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 3:17 pm to
It is a gathering of the top tier whiners!

literally a who's who in the first 10 posts



not like that was predictable from the thread titel or anything
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