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re: Xi got exactly what he wanted - for China to be seen on equal footing as the US

Posted on 5/16/26 at 10:53 am to
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 10:53 am to
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Powerman


You really need to see somebody about your unhealthy obsession with all things Trump. You almost make Roger seem like he isnt a psycho, too.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 10:54 am to
Russia, China, Japan, India… they all have far more to offer us than any European country.

With the Muslim invasion of basically everywhere, these other countries seem to not want that trash.

I’d rather be allied with the countries that will be able to succeed in the upcoming AI boom.
Posted by texas tortilla
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 10:59 am to
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we can't keep borrowing 166 billion a month. china sees a train wreck in our future and will wait it out. the stupid war with iran will only hasten the trainwreck. i wonder if behind closed doors if trump begged xi to buy our debt.
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 11:00 am
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:02 am to
Duh?
Why do you think most visits in diplomacy want this? " hey guys I want to invite a world leader to our country and look bad doing it" lol
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:04 am to
I like Trumps trip to China, sounds like we're going to open up more economically with them.

Of course its everything he campaigned against, but we're better off buying/selling than fighting.
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:09 am to
Is this all you have to criticize Trump? It must have been a successful visit then.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:10 am to
Opening up more economic contacts IS what he ran on. With everyone. It's unfair trade he ran against and still does. The two are not connected. Do better.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:12 am to
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Opening up more economic contacts IS what he ran on.


Protectionism is what he ran on.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:13 am to
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It must have been a successful visit then.


It was if you like China.

Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:19 am to
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 11:24 am to
With US securing every energy chokepoint in the world, it is quite fascinating and comedic to hear when others proclaim China has leverage.

Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:16 pm to
You say. I call it not getting screwed by gready countries, corporations and politicians. You try to get the best deal for all not just the top 1%.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:17 pm to
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You say. I call it not getting screwed by gready countries, corporations and politicians. You try to get the best deal for all not just the top 1%.


Protectionism.

Which is the opposite of free markets.

Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:20 pm to
What country has 100% free markets. Pure free capitalist running things?

You know "free market". The real deal you put forth.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:21 pm to
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What country has 100% free markets.


Here we go...

Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:25 pm to
Say it. You compare every short coming in economic systems based in comparison on a unicorn that doesn't exist. You can never be wrong.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63498 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:25 pm to
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If anything we look subservient
We want there asking them for concessions, instead of them asking us for stuff. I do t blame Trump for that, but it’s the reality of where we are (behind).
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:28 pm to
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You compare every short coming in economic systems


You cant make the "Playing field level" regardless of how many times you try.

fricking over your own citizens to try to "level the playing field" is like bombing your own fort to keep the enemy from doing it.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110964 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:29 pm to
Let’s suppose for the sake of discussion this is correct.

Assuming so, what do YOU think Trump should have done differently to assure this didn’t happen - I guess assuming you think he should have tried to prevent it from happening?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76517 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:36 pm to
Terrible analogy.
To condense an incredibly complex top to bottom economic system to bombing your own country is silly. Sounds prophetic.
Didn't say, you did about making things "perfect". You set that up as a automatic failure. Easy debate tactic way overused.
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