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re: Would you vote for a candidate who ran on a “major cutbacks to lower deficit” platform?

Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:55 am to
Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3629 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:55 am to
quote:

A candidate who promised to:
Make significant cuts to military spending.
Reel in Social Secirity spending.
Stop the practice of using tax returns as a handout.
Tax reform - flat tax or some variant - that closes all loopholes.
A likely necessary across-the-board tax increase.
Gov aid only to those unable to work.
No more private industry incentives.
Etc.


I would automatically assume they are either way too naive, or they are simply placating and don't mean a damn thing they say.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37161 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 11:05 am to
I would vote for such a candidate and actively support them, but I truly believe absent some major calamity that caused a major shift of opinion, this type of candidate would never win on a grand scale. Maybe they would win a random house race.

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Reel in Social Secirity spending.


I'm going to start a separate thread on this, but while this is needed to prevent even more problems in the future, it's not going to help much today.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37161 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Frankly, I want to see Trump EO a 20% cut to all departments just to see how everyone reacts. I'd expect a lot of this


Nah. I want to see him shut down entire departments and dramatically scale back others. Not all government is created equal, and some probably could use more money.

There are a lot of areas in which the fed duplicates state effort. I'd start there. I'm looking at you, Dept of Energy, and the EPA.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94701 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 11:39 am to
quote:

A candidate who promised to:
Make significant cuts to military spending.
Reel in Social Secirity spending.
Stop the practice of using tax returns as a handout.
Tax reform - flat tax or some variant - that closes all loopholes.
A likely necessary across-the-board tax increase.
Gov aid only to those unable to work.
No more private industry incentives.
Etc.


For one thing, this candidate would have a snowball's chance in hell of winning. These ideas, however well intentioned are political suicide. Beyond that let's say he did win, this candidate can't unilaterally introduce these cutbacks. He'd need Congress to get on board and that's unlikely for both sides of the aisle. Congressional "conservatives" aren't actually conservative.

~The war caucus would never get on board with military cuts. You see how they reacted to Trump wanting to bring troops home after 20 years in a useless conflict.

~Democrats damn sure aren't for spending cuts and entitlement reform. They'd oppose it and then use it as a campaign platform.. "Those heartless Republicans want to destroy our welfare system and gut social security that you've paid into."

~Every move made by a politician is calculated toward reelection. Who among them is going to have the guts to push Social Security off the cliff its teetering on?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19713 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 12:28 pm to
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Make significant cuts to military spending.
only if the spending comes by no longer footing the defense bill for half the world. We absolutely need to pay to refit our military with better, more advanced warfighting systems, since Obama basically let us wither on the vine for a decade and cancelled every next gen program we had going except the f35, which became a massive boondoggle. We spent a decade more concerned with getting trannies onto aircraft carriers than our ability to fight wars
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 12:30 pm
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 1:00 pm to
70% of our spending is on entitlement programs. Cut that wasteful shite and we’re good.
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 3/7/19 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

A candidate who promised to:
Make significant cuts to military spending.
Reel in Social Secirity spending.
Stop the practice of using tax returns as a handout.
Tax reform - flat tax or some variant - that closes all loopholes.
A likely necessary across-the-board tax increase.
Gov aid only to those unable to work.
No more private industry incentives.
Etc.





They all talk, very few have any action behind their words.
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