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Would you vote for a candidate who ran on a “major cutbacks to lower deficit” platform?
Posted on 3/7/19 at 5:43 am
Posted on 3/7/19 at 5:43 am
A candidate who promised to:
Make significant cuts to military spending.
Reel in Social Secirity spending.
Stop the practice of using tax returns as a handout.
Tax reform - flat tax or some variant - that closes all loopholes.
A likely necessary across-the-board tax increase.
Gov aid only to those unable to work.
No more private industry incentives.
Etc.
Would this candidate have any shot at winning?
These measures to control spending would obviously have a negative impact on the economy which may exacerbate the problem.
Make significant cuts to military spending.
Reel in Social Secirity spending.
Stop the practice of using tax returns as a handout.
Tax reform - flat tax or some variant - that closes all loopholes.
A likely necessary across-the-board tax increase.
Gov aid only to those unable to work.
No more private industry incentives.
Etc.
Would this candidate have any shot at winning?
These measures to control spending would obviously have a negative impact on the economy which may exacerbate the problem.
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 5:46 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
Would this candidate have any shot at winning?
I don't think so. Even conservatives think they are entitled to SS.
The only thing that makes sense is cuts across the board, and proposing cutting everything makes everyone hate you.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 5:47 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
Would you vote for a candidate who ran on a “major cutbacks to lower deficit” platform?
Candidates promise things all the time that they either can't deliver on their own or they have no intention of keeping once elected.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 5:49 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
Make significant cuts to military spending.
...or perhaps reallocating resources for more efficient use and stop getting involved in places where we don't need to be involved.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 5:50 am to Eli Goldfinger
I would vote for.
There actually is a point, where $20 trillion fades into $28T or $33T or $41T.. where it crashes bad for us.
There actually is a point, where $20 trillion fades into $28T or $33T or $41T.. where it crashes bad for us.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 5:52 am to JPinLondon
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There actually is a point, where $20 trillion fades into $28T or $33T or $41T.. where it crashes bad for us.
We’re there now.
10% of the money taken in by the fed goes for paying just the interest on the national debt.
Without major change, we’re about to be steamrolled.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 5:56 am to Eli Goldfinger
I would, but that candidate wouldn't have a chance.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 5:59 am to Stingray
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Even conservatives think they are entitled to SS.
Seeing I have been paying into it my entire working life I certainly think I am entitled to at least getting my damn money back.
Is that so unreasonable?
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:00 am to Stingray
quote:
The only thing that makes sense is cuts across the board
Not sure if serious....across the board cuts have always been stupid and will always be stupid....cut what needs cutting whether it's a 10% cut or 99% cut and there's plenty of shite that needs 99% cutting.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:01 am to FredBear
quote:
Seeing I have been paying into it my entire working life I certainly think I am entitled to at least getting my damn money back. Is that so unreasonable?
Yeah...SS isn’t an entitlement for me since I’ve been paying in a considerable amount for almost 20 years.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:02 am to Stingray
quote:
I don't think so. Even conservatives think they are entitled to SS.
SS needs to be eliminated, but FDR knew what he was doing he he dangled this carrot.
ETA: However, how do you tell people who've been paying in to the system they're simply SOL?
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 6:05 am
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:03 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
LBJ started the demise of SS by tapping it to pay for the Vietnam war.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:06 am to FredBear
quote:
Seeing I have been paying into it my entire working life I certainly think I am entitled to at least getting my damn money back.
Is that so unreasonable?
It's entirely reasonable but pretty unrealistic. There are a multitude of hard painful ways to shore up SS and one easy way. So means testing it'll be.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:09 am to Eli Goldfinger
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A likely necessary across-the-board tax increase.
Nope. This one line right here means the candidate doesn’t know what the hell they are talking about. The government doesn’t have a revenue problem, is has ONLY a spending problem.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:14 am to FredBear
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Is that so unreasonable?
It is certainly not sustainable.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:30 am to Eli Goldfinger
The Penny Plan would be something to consider. Instead of the avg increase of ~3% in FedGov budgets each year, we would cut 1% from the previous year. Mass chaos on all news outlets would ensue. However, we'd reduce fed spending by 22-23% in roughly 10 years' time. The only problem? We face elections every 2 years and both parties like to spend.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 6:37 am to Eli Goldfinger
That candidate wouldn’t be able to do all that with out a lot of help . We will not have major cuts either out a civil war .
Posted on 3/7/19 at 7:26 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Would this candidate have any shot at winning?
Fiscal conservatives would possibly vote for this person, but the rest of the country would laugh at country-first policies.
Half the country legit DGAF about the country anymore. Anytime you depend on govt, you are trading in your soul and pocketbook.
I really like your question by the way. I’ve often thought of asking a similar one, but how could someone like that get elected
Posted on 3/7/19 at 7:29 am to Eli Goldfinger
Sounds like ron paul and we all saw how that went
Posted on 3/7/19 at 7:33 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Reel in Social Secirity spending.
Nobody is going to agree to cut this. They've already taken my damn money. I do believe they will have to raise the age.
I would be happy to cut all government programs across the board by 10%. No pick and choose. All programs. You can't cancel a program to make the other side look bad. Everyone in the government takes a 10% cut.
By the way, there are no tax loopholes. There is simply the tax code. Using the tax code to your advantage isn't a loophole.
I would be more than happy to have a National Sales Tax and toss out income tax. You buy a product or service and you pay the tax. Problem is this will never happen. The millions of accountants out there would never let it happen.
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