re: Would you consider converting to Mormonism in order to regain what we have lost?

Sounds like Kingwood, TX, if you don't watch the rest of the world on TV and the movies. Unfortunately, we are a Harris County (Houston) member, and do feel like we are a member of the madness.

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it’s like a real life Disney World full of clean cut, happy, perfectly wholesome kids and large families. It’s otherworldly - these beautiful families with 4 or 5 kids going from dinner to Baskin Robins (you wouldn’t believe the lines at the BR closest to campus - it’s straight out of a 1980’s movie). Practically no crime, booming economy, most everybody is fit and successful.

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sounds boring as frick.

As a blood bought, born again Christian, I understand that what you think you have lost as a country is only temporary things in the end anyways.

I haven’t lost anything. My victory is in the finished work of Jesus Christ and nothing that happens can ever take that away.

See my problem is, im a sinner. Just like everyone else I was born into a fallen world, needing a savior from my sinful nature and Hell. Not a great President.

I’ve repented(turned from sin) and turned to our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. I’ve been born again! I’m now am sealed with the Holy Spirit and my eternal life has already begun. Am I perfect? Absolutely not, but I’m trusting in the one who was.

Don’t look for a better life my friend. Look for The life. Which is found in the grace of God by faith in his son Jesus Christ.

How is this split 30/30

Mormonism is a cult

One night with Marie Osmond would do.

Please define “cult.”

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1. Geographic concentration of its adherents that is conducive to keeping statists and leftists from infiltration as we’ve seen throughout traditional Catholicism and Protestantism in most of Western Europe and North America.
2. Strong culture of family values and morals that’s closer to Amish or Mennonite than traditional Christianity through aggressive monitoring amongst adherents
3. Just enough acceptance of modern culture and luxury to keep its members a relatively “normal” part of western culture without the kids turning into “thots” or proudly open deviants through competent leadership from the top down.

All of these points are similar to what Orthodox Christianity has been able to retain in Eastern Europe - I’d argue that geographic concentration has been the most important benefactor for that region as well. Lots of people my age here in the US talk longingly of moving to Poland or Hungary type nations to enjoy a 1950’s America style life like their grandparents. I’m basically hypothesizing that moving to Utah and converting to Mormonism would be (perhaps) an easier route

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I asked you for something specific, and what you provided instead was rhetoric. You talk about geographic concentration, but you conveniently ignore the fact that they are concentrated because their cult is very small compared to most. They stick together because there really isn't anywhere else for them to go and have a community of their "religious" peers. A religion does not simply set itself up to be infiltration proof, or anything close to it. You, for instance, clearly do not care about serving God, but only want to use "religion" as a tool. And you think it would be a good idea to "convert" to something you don't actually believe in. That type of attitude is just exactly how every other religion is infiltrated. By people like you who see a particular set of ideals within a specific religion as a means to an end, but who won't hesitate to bend the rules to make it more convenient for them.

Those who call themselves "Christians" who are not upholding traditional values, are those who come from the same mindset as you: They like the stability that Christian values offer, but only as far as it suits their pleasure. When they are put in difficult situations, such as whether to stand against PC culture and face the fire, or make "compromises" to avoid said fire, they give in to the mob. In your case, it might not be that you want to give in to the mob, but you (erroneously) see Mormonism as a way to return to some distant utopia, and so, without even considering the moral consequences of such a decision, you'd apparently be perfectly willing to become a Mormon.

And those same exact people exist in Mormonism. Take Mitt Romney as exhibit A. You didn't actually show how Mormonism has somehow done better to uphold traditional values; you just gave an outline of how you perceive Mormons vs Christians, and proceeded to state your case as though it were fact. In reality, it was just your short sighted opinion.

Mormon’s believe in the same God of Abraham, as do those you’ve determined worthy of wearing the title of “christian.”

Mormon’s believe that Jesus the Christ died on a cross for all.

Mormon’s believe that Jesus the Christ rose 3 days later.

Mormon’s believe in a kind, gracious, loving, forgiving God - that man and woman is in fact made in his image.

Either way, I am sure He appreciates you saving him time by casting judgement on his behalf.

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To be honest, I really like Mormons. I think they’re very nice and not complete hypocrites like you see with many evangelicals. But no.

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Show any group of people, religious or not, who don't have a lot of hypocrites and I'll give you 100 dollars. People act real nice to your face and talk a great game, but then go home and act like dogs. Humans are like that. That's why we needed a Savior.