re: Would have siding with Hitler prevented the Holocaust? Ted Cruz weighing in now.

The Ukrainians sided with the Nazis during WW2. Neonazis still exist in Ukraine today.

Loomer and Cruz's Jew first viewpoint make sense if you believe a white Christian is worth approximately 1/5th of a Jew.

The argument was that if the US sides with the Germans, the Holocaust may never have happened and by defeating Stalin millions of other lives would have also been saved.

Millions more if the allies didn't hand control of China over to Mao after the war.

The Jews wouldn't have remained in Germany after the war, sure, but if removing Christians from the ancestral home lands in Gaza, Syria, etc by Israel today is ok, then the same logic would apply to the Germans removal of the Jews post WW2. This would have not been the first time the Jews were removed from the territory of one of the allies in this scenario.

They will say that Gaza doesn't count because it is a mixture of Christians and Muslims who have some how lived together for centuries. Of course this population and Hamas is indistinguishable for them.

Genocide is about race not religion. So was Hitler right and the Jews are a race or is the rest of the worlds classification of Judaism
as a religion only correct?

Dumb idea from retards

Germany declared war on us, FWIW.

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I rest my case

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I don’t want to debate anymore so I’ll pretend I’ve proved something I haven’t.

Nobody falls for this shite anymore retard.

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Also, Hitler declared war on the US.
He FAFO.

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Right.

We had to side with England because of our deep ancestorial ties anyway. Plus getting into the war was a good way of leaving Great Depression economics behind. We had a big economic incentive to dive in.

Hindsight is 20/20


But Germany was allied with Japan and Japan attacked us then Germany declared war so not much choice at that point.

Now before the war we weren’t hostile to Nazi Germany. There were a lot of Nazi supporters in the U.S. at that point. Jews weren’t much liked here, even FDR turned away boatloads of Jewish refugees from Germany.


When Germany started hostilities in Europe we were neutral until they went to war with our allies France and the UK. Even then we didn’t enter the war but we sided with UK and France by supplying weapons and supplies so we definitely chose sides at that point.


Now if the war was simply Germany attacking the communists to the East and left Western Europe alone, I think we would have ended up backing that effort. Germany brought it on themself and I don’t see how we could have sided with that regime once they started hostilities and definitely not after Pearl Harbor. Both Nazis and communists were bad and by the death total the communists were worse.


My opinion on the matter is we were right to side with Western Europe against the Nazis. However, I think we should have went ahead and defeated the Soviets immediately after Berlin fell while they were weakened and we had nukes and they didn’t

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Define genocide for me. I'd like to hear what you think that word means.

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Hard to understand that simply studying history proves that this is only going to end in a genocide.

Either for Gaza or the Israelis.

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We had our choice of two monsters.

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We objectively chose the worst one. And lots of people said as much at the time.

If the goal of stopping Hitler was to allow for a sovereign Europe and a free Poland, we objectively failed. Europe fell to the iron curtain, Poland was occupied by the Godless Soviets, and Europe is ruled by autocrats in Brussels.

The Third Reich was objectively a better choice than what we had. Patton was correct - which is why he had to be killed.