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re: Witness: Man Rittenhouse Fatally Shot Acted ‘Erratic’; Hurled N-Word, Shouted ‘Shoot Me’
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:02 pm to Frank Black
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:02 pm to Frank Black
Ovah
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:04 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Now he's pushing for the "poor Rosenbaum he got shot!" angle.....of course after clearly pointing out Rosenbaum chasing Kyle and Kyle trying to run away.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:08 pm to Centinel
camera zoomed in on kyle while showing two dudes carrying rosenbaum's dying carcass and he was wiping away tears and trying to keep his composure.
now they're playing LIVE youtube comments from the livestream
WTF? how are they allowed to play random youtube comments which are always inappropriate.
now they're playing LIVE youtube comments from the livestream
WTF? how are they allowed to play random youtube comments which are always inappropriate.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:11 pm to CAD703X
I love how Court TV is "not showing graphic video of shootings" but played the George Floyd OD video 100000x during the trial.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:12 pm to CAD703X
So Kyle Rittenhouse has been put through hell for a year plus for this?????
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:14 pm to Tigers2010a
Off the top of their head, does anyone know of a case of malicious prosecution which got to trial and resulted in the accused getting paid off without them actually going to jail?
Because this farce seems to be grounds for one if it hasn’t happened before.
Because this farce seems to be grounds for one if it hasn’t happened before.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:20 pm to Tigers2010a
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So Kyle Rittenhouse has been put through hell for a year plus for this?????
so they're making a big deal out of the fact the scumbag who shot first wasn't pointing his gun at kyle (like he would know that) and that kyle shot rosendead 2.5 seconds later and an UNKOWN PERSON FIRED 3 SHOTS IMMEDIATELY AFTER KYLE but they don't know who it was and prosecution is trying to make it sound like it wasn't in the same area..despite nobody having any idea what or where.
this is all they have. now lots of 'poor rosenped' as people are trying to work on him.
let's show 17 cellphone videos of rosenbaum dying. one right after the other..
judge should put a stop to this and say its not necessary to show the same dying guy scene from 15 different cellphones.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:27 pm to teke184
quote:This kid has been put through the wringer, and he should not have been. But he has no justiciable legal claim for malicious prosecution.
does anyone know of a case of malicious prosecution which got to trial and resulted in the accused getting paid off without them actually going to jail?
Because this farce seems to be grounds for one if it hasn’t happened before.
quote:This case does not give rise to even a good faith argument that there was no probable cause for the primary charges. Like it or not, Rittenhouse killed two people. The prosecution proved the elements of its case before this trial ever started. In essence, defense counsel admitted this in his opening statement.
Under Wisconsin law plaintiff Kaminske's claim for the tort of malicious prosecution requires six elements: (1) a prior institution or continuation of judicial proceedings against Kaminske; (2) the former proceedings were "by, or at the instance of," WCL; (3) the prior proceedings terminated in Kaminske's favor; (4) malice on the part of WCL in instituting the former proceedings; (5) a want of probable cause for the institution of the former proceedings; and (6) injury or damage resulting to Kaminske from the former proceedings. Strid v. Converse, 111 Wis.2d 418, 423, 331 N.W.2d 350 (1983).
This entire trial is about Rittenhouse’s affirmative defense, which DOES have merit. But failure to exercise prosecutorial discretion and to elect not prosecute based upon an affirmative defense (no matter how meritorious) is never going to give rise to a malicious prosecution case, because the failure to exercise prosecutorial discretion is not remotely the same thing as “lack of probable cause“ on the underlying crime. It is not even an element of the tort.
Locke
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:44 pm to LockeNLoad
quote:
There is no case here for malicious prosecution
How about a case for a political prosecution which is what we are seeing.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:46 pm to Tigers2010a
quote:I am not aware of any such tort.quote:How about a case for a political prosecution which is what we are seeing.
There is no case here for malicious prosecution
Most States have criminal statutes for abuse of office, and I suppose that someone could TRY to argue that the DA should be prosecuted, but that does not put money in Rittenhouse's pockets.
Locke
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:50 pm to LockeNLoad
What is worse, everyone he shot (families of the dead) will sue him after he is found not guilty.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:54 pm to phaz
quote:Almost certainly true.
worse, everyone he shot (families of the dead) will sue him after he is found not guilty.
Same thing happened to OJ. Acquitted of the crime, but got sued and spent the rest of his life barely able to afford green fees for visiting every golf course in the country to search for the real killer.
Locke
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:55 pm to TDTOM
Kid is literally running away in every single video, yet they claim it's not self defense. 
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:31 pm to Frank Black
I haven’t been able to watch but following along here I think I have an idea what narrative the prosecutor is trying to paint. Yes, there were arsonists and people acting in a violent destructive fashion, however Kyle went LOOKING for trouble and found it. That’s why you have a presumed prosecution witness testifying about Rosenbum’s erratic behavior. The prosecutor is trying to establish that by looking for trouble or violent unstable individuals like Rosenbum, Kyle can’t claim he was acting in self defense once he happened upon it… it’s an absolutely retarded strategy imo because there is so much evidence to the contrary. Watch though, once they’ve established the violent individuals they’ll circle back around to Kyle being a 16 year old boy with a rifle who crossed into another state seeking trouble makers.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:51 pm to Frank Black
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confirming that he has seen videos of Joseph Rosenbaum, a man fatally shot by Rittenhouse, hurling the N-word and yelling “shoot me”
You need a witness to talk about something everyone has already seen and knows exists?
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:14 pm to teke184
quote:
without them actually going to jail?
Kyle was in jail.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:15 pm to Frank Black
fricking white supremacists.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:28 pm to phaz
quote:
What is worse, everyone he shot (families of the dead) will sue him after he is found not guilty.
so what you're saying is that if Rittenhouse wasn't there that night someone else would have shot them?
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:30 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:
so what you're saying is that if Rittenhouse wasn't there that night someone else would have shot them?
Possibly, if they also attacked another person with a gun, then that person could have shot them. Judging from their behavior, it's very likely they would have attacked another person, what we don't know is if that other person would have the skills and the big arse balls that Rittenhouse does.
Anyone can sue, that doesn't mean they will win
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