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With today’s tech, can’t we just cut right through

Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:25 pm
Posted by sumtimeitbeslikedat
Vidalia, La
Member since Nov 2013
4425 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:25 pm
the Panama Canal? Like do away with the locks, cut straight through to make it much faster, and widen the canal. This would allow us to get goods way faster and circumvent those stupid Californians. Somebody tell me why this wouldn’t work? I mean, there are countries in the island-building business. Seems like we could cut a darn good ditch at least…
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77986 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:27 pm to
LOL WUT?
Posted by sumtimeitbeslikedat
Vidalia, La
Member since Nov 2013
4425 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:36 pm to
Move west coast shipping hubs away from areas they can’t offload bc of political crap from and to places like New Orleans, Galveston, Corpus, Mobile, Bay St Louis, etc….
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8661 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:38 pm to
Go to Google Maps, ask for Panama Canal, then hit the "Terrain" option to the right of the satellite icon in lower left.

Setting aside environmental considerations (critters are doubtless hitching rides on the hulls of the ships), there are massive mountains pretty much everywhere. Those mountains aren't stable and you take many tons off, and some faults may start sliding.

Locals may not want to be displaced, mountains in national parks are not going to be deforested without environmentalists' blessings. Illegal aliens would even look fondly back on the days when the Darien Pass was the problem with their trek from Colombia.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112489 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:38 pm to
Don't know what your point is. But we don't build anything fast today. The feasibility studies would take 3 years. Then the environmental lawsuits add another 5 years. Then the labor strikes.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:39 pm to
I hope this is not the kind of logic you apply to all of your opinions.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6581 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:40 pm to
A new improved Panama Canal has been built, you may see it on Google maps. But it will not help. Those containers on those ships are mostly carried buy 2 railroads (Union Pacific and BNSF) from California to Chicago , and on to NYC. They have contracts. To move them to be offloaded, say in New Orleans, would break the contracts baw.
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1732 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:41 pm to
There are plenty of options:

A Panamax port is a deepwater port that can accommodate a fully laden Panamax ship.

Pacific Ocean[edit]
Port of Seattle

Port of Tacoma

Port Madison — sometimes called Port Madison Bay, a deepwater bay located on Puget Sound.

Port Angeles

Port of Grays Harbor

Port of Longview

Port of Kalama

Port of Vancouver USA

Port of Portland — three post-Panamax terminals.

Port of Coos Bay — Oregon's second busiest seaport

Port of Humboldt Bay — (aka Port of Eureka) the only deepwater port in California north of San Francisco Bay

Port of Richmond

Port of Stockton — California's farthest-inland deepwater port.

Port of Oakland — channel is fifty feet deep and eight hundred feet wide.

Port of Redwood City — resulting from dredging the mouth of Redwood Creek

Port of Hueneme — only deepwater port between Los Angeles and San Francisco, and the only military deepwater port between San Diego Bay and Puget Sound

Port of Los Angeles — busiest port in the United States.
Port of Long Beach — one of the busiest container ports in the world.
Port of San Diego — home to the bulk of the United States Navy Pacific Carrier Fleet. Only the first nine miles (14 km) of the bay are accessible to Panamax vessels.
Posted by au1331
Member since Jun 2020
219 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:21 pm to
the length of time i had to sit at a railroad crossing the other day tells me that someone, somewhere is off loading these containers....
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:22 pm to
You're missing the point. The Panama Canal is a bottleneck, not a passageway.
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5234 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

With today’s tech, can’t we just cut right through by sumtimeitbeslikedat

the Panama Canal? Like do away with the locks, cut straight through to make it much faster, and widen the canal. This would allow us to get goods way faster and circumvent those stupid Californians.



Biden, is that you?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

the Panama Canal? Like do away with the locks, cut straight through to make it much faster, and widen the canal. This would allow us to get goods way faster and circumvent those stupid Californians. Somebody tell me why this wouldn’t work? I mean, there are countries in the island-building business. Seems like we could cut a darn good ditch at least…


21 miles of the 51 miles that make up the waterway that is called the Panama canal is not actually a canal. The locks take ship traffic up to the level of "Lake Gatum" were they transit 21 miles of the lake, and then enter locks to go back down to sea level on the other side. Cutting straight through would require draining this huge lake. Besides the short distance between the the two oceans the Panama canal was built where it is because the lake could be utilized to bridge the two points reducing construction time and cost.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 3:09 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
36761 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

With today’s tech, can’t we just cut right through by sumtimeitbeslikedat
the Panama Canal? Like do away with the locks, cut straight through to make it much faster, and widen the canal. This would allow us to get goods way faster and circumvent those stupid Californians. Somebody tell me why this wouldn’t work? I mean, there are countries in the island-building business. Seems like we could cut a darn good ditch at least…

Jesus Christ. It's like Biden and Trump came up with this plan together and then had George w explain it to us.
Posted by sumtimeitbeslikedat
Vidalia, La
Member since Nov 2013
4425 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:46 pm to
Relax, Bro. It’s just something I’ve wondered about since this whole pileup has happened on the left coast. If it’s not feasible, it’s not feasible… I’m just wondering why it isn’t.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13384 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:04 pm to
Waiting time WITHOUT a reservation is about 5 or 6 days.

The issue is where they are coming from...China. To take a container ship down to Panama then back up to the states through the Gulf to NO and THEN put it on haulers and then trains would be a considerable cost and much longer. They will get the mess on the west coast straightened out.

It is amazing our build back better 4 trillion budget has nothing to upgrade the cranes at the cali ports, lest it offend the unions.
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
3691 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:07 pm to
It come down to stupid Calif voters voting in the riff raff that is the direct cause of inefficient transportation of goods. Solve that and there is no need to spend billions of fixing canals, longer shipping routes or larger ports.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 4:09 pm
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