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re: With Iran rejecting the 48 hour cease fire and refusing to meet - you only have one option
Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:40 am to Bronco11
Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:40 am to Bronco11
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I'm fairly certain beside being just generally unpleasant euro leftists, there is a major driving fear from some of these countries that some of their new local populations will lash out violently.
Oh I know that’s a big part of it. They’ve imported extreme savages into their countries and they fear them. So no matter how many terrorist attacks and attempted attacks Iran funds in their countries, pussy EU countries don’t want to actually solve the root cause
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:57 am to biglego
I'd agree. However, their AWFL problem is worse than ours. Their white women, in a large percentage, are extremely sympathetic to imported males.
There is, in good news, a middle class white women movement (pink ladies) that is very active.
One issue I've found very interesting is that they have a "Shire" issue outside of the urban centers.
It's a correlation between modern english suburbs and rural populations that haven't seen the bad stuff yet. Like the Shire in lord of the rings. Completely oblivious.
It's a work in progress for those rural working class who still voted labour or tolerate the new greens.
There is, in good news, a middle class white women movement (pink ladies) that is very active.
One issue I've found very interesting is that they have a "Shire" issue outside of the urban centers.
It's a correlation between modern english suburbs and rural populations that haven't seen the bad stuff yet. Like the Shire in lord of the rings. Completely oblivious.
It's a work in progress for those rural working class who still voted labour or tolerate the new greens.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 6:43 am to Usm Tiger
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Just take over kharg island, forcible open the strait, and profit from all the oil and tell iran to f off. They can do nothing about it and neither can anyone else. Now you control Venezuelan oil, iran oil, and the US supply. Congrats china, russia, eu, etc we now run the entire world.
Except as a country we don't seem to have the will to do it. I bet you if Hussein was President and doing this shite, the country (panicans and libs) and the media would eat this shite up.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 6:47 am to Solo Cam
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You only have one option now - an absolute full send.
This was the way the entire time.
Any student of history could tell you that an aerial campaign doesn't win wars all by itself. If his top military advisors argued otherwise then they should be fired.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 6:49 am to theballguy
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I bet you if Hussein was President and doing this shite, the country (panicans and libs) and the media would eat this shite up.
Iran was always a DEM per project
MAGA focused on Saudi Arabia
But the legitimate and sincere anti war coalition would remain intellectually consistent on this issue. The problem is most people who claim that status when their side isn't going to war are not sympathetic and their position is insincere. This applies to the MAGA bros now who claimed they were against new wars (and especially forever ME wars) but are rabidly supporting this war now. Neocons never change their stripes. They just engage in Taqiyya
Posted on 4/4/26 at 6:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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Neocons never change their stripes.
You have to laugh, they are actually taking shots at Trump over their life's dream.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 6:52 am to RollTide1987
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Any student of history could tell you that an aerial campaign doesn't win wars all by itself. If his top military advisors argued otherwise then they should be fired.
They either underestimated the IRGC and/or did not have a clear plan and though they could get the population to rise up. Probably a bit of both. Once we start hitting civilian infrastructure we torpedo the chances of the anti-regime population trusting/supporting us.
The other problem is the longer we engage in the war the more likely we have soldiers due and planes shot down, which will lead to a domestic increase in support or escalation.
There are no good options only bad ones
I hope we pick the best, bad option and take the L before this gets out of hand
Posted on 4/4/26 at 7:08 am to Solo Cam
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You only have one option now - an absolute full send.
What does “full send” mean?
A draft? Nukes? Killing all Iranians?
Posted on 4/4/26 at 7:09 am to Solo Cam
Another “RED LINE” crossed with no consequences.
TACO Trump in full form while our pilots are shot down.
Remind me again why we are at war with Iran?
TACO Trump in full form while our pilots are shot down.
Remind me again why we are at war with Iran?
Posted on 4/4/26 at 7:18 am to captainFid
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I wouldn't be surprised to find all of the (panicans) oil price pressure is coming from certain interest groups, concerned with the world's apple cart Trump has upturned.
THIS
Some don’t like the USA & Trump and are trying very hard to chop us at the knees with this oil price hype
Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:16 am to LuckyTiger
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Leave and declare victory without accomplishing any of our strategic objectives and emboldening Iran and its terrorist allies. I suspect we will do this.
You’re getting your share of DVs but this is spot on. I don’t think there will be an invasion. We’ll leave and try and put lipstick on the pig. Many will buy it. Many will not.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:18 am to Lizardman2
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You cannot kill an ideology.
Oh you can, but no one wants to talk about that option...
Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:20 am to i am dan
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Nazism was killed tho.
That's not true. We still have Republicans, Conservatives, straight white men, Donald Trump, Christians and guns - and we still need to make the whole Universe safe and welcoming for Trans Kids.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 10:06 am to Solo Cam
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Solo Cam
Are you willing to go yourself?
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