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re: With 20 days to 2 months, Greenland will be ours!! It is 1.25 times bigger than Alaska!!
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:42 pm to northshorebamaman
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:42 pm to northshorebamaman
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First, Europe’s alignment with U.S. security interests predates Trump by decades. NATO basing, intelligence sharing, nuclear deterrence, Balkan interventions, Afghanistan, post-9/11 counterterror cooperation, and coordinated sanctions all existed long before Trump showed up. This is not a recent, coerced phenomenon. I can give you a specific list of examples during the Obama and Biden admins, as well, if you would like.
All irrelevant atm.
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Saying “they only sided with us to avoid disaster” is not evidence of betrayal. It’s evidence that U.S. alignment remains the least bad option.
It is their ONLY option (forced now). Again, pre-Trump, the pivot to China was in motion. Things have changed (temporarily) due to pressure from the U.S.
I would suggest that pressure has not been viewed as an opportunity for self reflection (“Holy shite…we were almost infiltrated by China!”), but rather as a hindrance.
You trust Europe due to historical ties. I say that those ties don’t mean shite to European leadership.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:52 pm to jimmy the leg
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All irrelevant atm.
quote:Only one of us has provided concrete examples for our claim. I've provided multiple and I'm willing to provide a dozen more.
You trust Europe due to historical ties. I say that those ties don’t mean shite to European leadership.
Still waiting on your first one.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:58 pm to TS1926
Beaux just wants some more of that good good Biden/harris/tampontimmy leadership
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:05 pm to northshorebamaman
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You assert a “pre-Trump" pivot to China and now you've declared the entire evidentiary domain “irrelevant” because it contradicts the conclusion you've already decided on.
I mean, they were all about China pre-Trump. How is that remotely debatable. He forced them to decide where their “loyalty” is (for now).
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Only one of us has provided concrete examples for our claim. I've provided multiple and I'm willing to provide a dozen more.
Historical ones - irrelevant at this moment.
Otherwise, you have simply noted that they have chosen the only legitimate option available to them. If the USSC declares tariffs to be outside of Trump’s ability to implement, then I predict that Europe will mess us over.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:13 pm to Shaun176
quote:Minerals.
Why do we want Greenland? We already have a base there and full military use.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:17 pm to deltaland
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bet they’d take that deal
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:17 pm to deltaland
quote:Offer a straight up trade for Puerto Rico!
Offer them US citizenship and to be an autonomous territory like Puerto Rico.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:21 pm to jimmy the leg
You’ve asserted a pre-Trump pivot to China, refused to provide a single concrete security decision that demonstrates it, and then declared decades of counter-examples “irrelevant” because they contradict your conclusion. I've also offered several times to provide many, more recent, pre-Trump examples that took place during the Obama and Biden admins as well.
Once you ruled out evidence, by definition, your claim became unfalsifiable and there's nothing to debate. At this point we’re no longer arguing about geopolitics or alliances. We’re arguing about your personal distrust. I agree. You distrust them.
I’m happy to reengage if you can point to a specific instance where the EU sided with China against U.S. security interests. If not, there’s nothing left to debate here, and I’m not interested in shadow boxing.
Once you ruled out evidence, by definition, your claim became unfalsifiable and there's nothing to debate. At this point we’re no longer arguing about geopolitics or alliances. We’re arguing about your personal distrust. I agree. You distrust them.
I’m happy to reengage if you can point to a specific instance where the EU sided with China against U.S. security interests. If not, there’s nothing left to debate here, and I’m not interested in shadow boxing.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 6:49 am to northshorebamaman
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At this point we’re no longer arguing about geopolitics or alliances.
Alliances no. The future of those “alliances” and the geopolitics that underpin them…yes.
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You distrust them.
Correct.
As noted, we agree to disagree.
Let’s see how things shake out after the pending USSC decision hits. You seem to be stating that Europe will still keep those same agreements in place. I say that Europe will leverage that decision against us.
Time will tell.
Have a good day.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 6:55 am to beaux duke
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no we won't
Do you know how to read a map?
Posted on 1/7/26 at 9:22 am to RelentlessAnalysis
Denmark does control Greenland as part of the Kingdom of Denmark. They manage their defense and foreign affairs. Greenland handles most of their domestic issues. Greenland has kind of a pseudo independence through a referendum.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 9:27 am to hogcard1964
quote:Greenland, but not Iceland.
Denmark does control Greenland as part of the Kingdom of Denmark. They manage their defense and foreign affairs. Greenland handles most of their domestic issues. Greenland has kind of a pseudo independence through a referendum.
He edited his post after I showed his error.
This post was edited on 1/7/26 at 9:29 am
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:09 am to beaux duke
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i deal in reality
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:10 am to Wee Ice Mon
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the elites
Who are these “elites?”
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:13 am to Timeoday
Grok’s .02$
As of January 2026, the Trump administration is discussing options for Greenland, including a potential Compact of Free Association as one pathway—providing US defense/security guarantees, funding, and military access in exchange for strategic control—primarily if Greenland gains independence from Denmark. This is floated alongside purchase or other means, driven by Arctic security priorities against Russia/China, but no agreement exists yet.
As of January 2026, the Trump administration is discussing options for Greenland, including a potential Compact of Free Association as one pathway—providing US defense/security guarantees, funding, and military access in exchange for strategic control—primarily if Greenland gains independence from Denmark. This is floated alongside purchase or other means, driven by Arctic security priorities against Russia/China, but no agreement exists yet.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:19 am to AncientTiger
Yall talk to me about the hunting opportunities in greenland. What they got and what's it taste like and how many can I shoot?
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:23 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
we dont need a corrupt monarchy in denmark or those 40,000 malnourished greenlanders deciding whether or not China can set up shop there.
Its that simple.
Greenland - What is China doing there and WHY?
Its that simple.
Greenland - What is China doing there and WHY?
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:27 am to Timeoday
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:30 am to Ailsa
amazing people who dont bother to look at the history think denmark is just some super nice country of peace-loving bicycle riders who only want greenland to be happy.
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:45 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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DownshiftAndFloorIt
Yall talk to me about the hunting opportunities in greenland. What they got and what's it taste like and how many can I shoot?
Musk ox are tasty.
Everything else thats tasty like whale and seal would probably be only huntable/fish able by natives per several US laws
They are mainly a fishing community.
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