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re: With 20 days to 2 months, Greenland will be ours!! It is 1.25 times bigger than Alaska!!

Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:50 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:50 pm to
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That's not based on anything real.


So they haven’t cozied up to the Chinese (I would suggest to alienate the U.S.)?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:55 pm to
They have not in any meaningful way.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44317 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:55 pm to
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I am genuinely curious what you are seeing that I am not.


The political alignment in Europe is far left (as opposed to just “left).

They have far more in common with China in that regard. The economic links were solidifying that relationship until tariffs made them hit the “slow down” button (because they haven’t paused).

As noted, I don’t trust Europe at this point. I would suggest that their leaders are compromised.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60718 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:58 pm to
Greenland was promised to us 300 years ago
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
5090 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:58 pm to
frick , just give them the day care money
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38343 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:00 pm to
Can you point to a single concrete action where Europe sided with China against core U.S. security interests? I can give recent examples where they've sided with us, even when it damaged their economies.
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
5321 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:12 pm to
Since you brought it up, what ever happened to Alaska?

Pipeline, so much oil, has anything changed ?

Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38343 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:13 pm to
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Since you brought it up
nope
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44317 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:13 pm to
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Can you point to a single concrete action where Europe sided with China against core U.S. security interests? I can give recent examples where they've sided with us, even when it damaged their economies.


Prior to those recent examples (forced by Trump), they were majorly in bed with China.

No Trump = no commitment to the US.

We were the candy store, and they were content to rob us until the shelves were empty.

Again, I would suggest (strongly) that those decisions to “side with us” were done to avoid disaster, not to show support or solidarity.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3947 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:13 pm to
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if Putin takes control of Europe, and Denmark still controls Iceland, then Russia gets control of Iceland.


Iceland has not belonged to Denmark since the 1940s.


Greenland, not Iceland... "my bad," as the kids say...
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 9:29 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44317 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:16 pm to
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They have not in any meaningful way.


This didn’t happen?

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lobbyists with ties to Huawei allegedly offered gifts – smartphones, tickets to football matches and other events, and travel perks – in exchange for political support, particularly in relation to the rollout of 5G infrastructure in Europe. The case reportedly involves more than 40 current and former members of the European Parliament.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:19 pm to
What do you think that means?
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23264 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:21 pm to
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Europe would be forced to look elsewhere.


Good. Especially if they take England with them.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80941 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:23 pm to
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The way out would be for there to be a referendum in Greenland simply asking the people do you want to remain part of Denmark, become a US State like Alaska or become an Independent Country?


Offer $1 million to each resident if they choose statehood.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44317 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:26 pm to
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What do you think that means?


It means that they catered to the U.S. That being said, it wasn’t until we put sanctions in place that they followed suit. Otherwise, some member state were more than willing to get in bed with China (Spain comes to mind). With inter connectivity within the EU, no U.S. sanctions meant an EU with (major?) cracks in their armor. Europe may be going along, but not willingly. For example Huawei is now embedding itself in Europe’s solar infrastructure. I’m sure there are only economic motives on their part.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38343 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:28 pm to
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Prior to those recent examples (forced by Trump), they were majorly in bed with China.

No Trump = no commitment to the US.

We were the candy store, and they were content to rob us until the shelves were empty.

Again, I would suggest (strongly) that those decisions to “side with us” were done to avoid disaster, not to show support or solidarity.
That framing is inaccurate and still doesn’t get you where you want to go.

First, Europe’s alignment with U.S. security interests predates Trump by decades. NATO basing, intelligence sharing, nuclear deterrence, Balkan interventions, Afghanistan, post-9/11 counterterror cooperation, and coordinated sanctions all existed long before Trump showed up. This is not a recent, coerced phenomenon. I can give you a specific list of examples during the Obama and Biden admins, as well, if you would like.

Second, motivation is irrelevant to the claim you’re making. Alliances are not built on love and affection. They're built on incentives, constraints, and repeated behavior. States act to avoid disaster. That's how strategic alliances work, not evidence of secret hostility.

Third, you keep asserting “in bed with China” without pointing to a single instance where Europe chose China over the U.S. on a core security issue. Trade integration does not equal strategic alignment. If it were, the U.S. itself would qualify as friendly with China. What matters is what happens when trade conflicts with security. Whenever that test has arrived, Europe has aligned with us.

Saying “they only sided with us to avoid disaster” is not evidence of betrayal. It’s evidence that U.S. alignment remains the least bad option. That is how durable alliances behave under pressure.

So we’re back to the same place. You’re imputing intent without behavioral proof. I’m pointing to decades of consistent security alignment that predates Trump and continues despite real economic costs.

If there’s an example where Europe actually chose China against core U.S. security interests, name it. If not, this remains your personal suspicions, not geopolitical analysis.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
8038 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:29 pm to
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Posted by beaux duke1


frick off commie!
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44317 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:33 pm to
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That position assumes complete Canadian and British not responding the way countries usually respond to changing environments.


I would trust China more than Britain or Canada. At least you know that China would mess you over. The Brits, Canucks, Aussies, and Kiwis are no longer trustworthy (at all).
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23264 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:33 pm to
One of POTUS Trump's libraries will be built there.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
6390 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:38 pm to
Meh, tell them that they are immediately all enrolled in Medicare and ss.

Done deal
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