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re: Will you boycott NCAA sports when they follow suit with BLM stuff

Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:37 pm to
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Man there is a mountain of evidence that minorities are pulled over/ stopped, arrested, & incarcertated at statistically significant higher proportions than white people.
actually no there isn't you're just bad at stats. The expected rate isn't there percent of the population of the entire United States because that's not how our population is distributed. I would explain it to you as I have before on this board but something tells me you wouldn't even take the time to understand. But bottom line is you are wrong. You believe something stupid because you lack the skill to analyze it yourself
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A handful of people's opinions respresents millions? Man I feel sorry for you. Surely you've thought about this deeper?
it isn't a handful. Get out more
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:37 pm to
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This board is actually one of the largest political boards in the south if not the largest

It has long since stop being just our little corner and so Liberals are going to take notice because they can't stand for it.

It's particularly funny when we get liberals from Democratic Underground because they are so unaccustomed to even bumping into thoughts different than their own. They have the nerve to call our board one-sided when their site actually has policies Banning any thought they don't like


Yeah you are correct. I think I love this place because I know how bad the leftist NPC's hate it. Lol.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:37 pm to
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Man there is a mountain of evidence that minorities are pulled over/ stopped, arrested, & incarcertated at statistically significant higher proportions than white people. That's just a fact. Idk what you believe "doesn't exist"

Just for fun because I already know I'm almost certainly a thousand times better than you at math and statistics. Let's have fun. Articulate your understanding of the numbers. I feel like having a good time beating your arse
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10311 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:39 pm to
Yep.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28161 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:40 pm to
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Man there is a mountain of evidence that minorities are pulled over/ stopped, arrested


Target rich environment....
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8118 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:40 pm to
I'm going to listen on the radio and if they make BLM a part of the program i will turn it off. I don't have plans to go to any games this year but thats mainly because my team sucks and it's expensive.

ESPN is all about that shite. If you are paying for cable and buying merch, your "boycott" doesn't mean shite. Make the real moves to stop giving money to them if you really want it to change.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:42 pm to
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Man there is a mountain of evidence that minorities are pulled over/ stopped, arrested, & incarcertated at statistically significant higher proportions than white people. That's just a fact.


Should we wait for a link?

Even if that were correct (it isn't) the only issue BLM cares about is Black People Killed by police. And that number is significantly less than white people.

LINK

250 black people killed by police in 2019. 403 white people killed by police. 55 total who were unarmed. 14 of those were black, 25 were white.

The country is being torn apart over a lie.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28144 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:43 pm to
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Man there is a mountain of evidence that minorities are pulled over/ stopped, arrested, & incarcertated at statistically significant higher proportions than white people


Are they breaking the law at a statistically significant higher rate than white people?
Posted by DatWood
DFW
Member since Jun 2020
247 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:46 pm to
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America isn't institutionally racist.

It has insitutional racism roots at the minimun slavery, convict-lease system, Jim Crow, War on Drugs is still on going. You can try to disavow the impact od these things but they are insiturionally racist and a big part of American history.

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Affirmative action is racist.

That's actually a fair point. Be aware that many succesful minorites want affirmative erased eventually as well. They just still find it necessaey for now. Meritocracy is always the ideal.

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Inequality in outcome isn't evidence of racism

It can be, but in and of itself it no.

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The abolition/defunding of police, the courts, and/or jails will pull us backwards as a society.

There is a need for massive reform tho. Undeniably.

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All black lives matter, not just the one's unjustly killed by police.


Getting killed by an arm of the government is pretty different than being murdered by a private citizen, no?

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Riots, vandalism, assault, and theft are bad.

Yes that is a bi-partisan position, whether you want to believe it or not.
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Pretending America is racist doesn't justify that sort of behavior.

Prentending? Dude the civil rights act was 56 years ago. We're just starting the 3rd generation from there. Where do people get this notion that racism has vanished? It's still there right out in the open, it's just not nearly as vehement.

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And there's nothing childish about giving up something, no matter how fun it might be, if it conflicts with you're core values or principles.


No there definitley can be. If your principles or values are misguided then it is illogical and childish, by definition.
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 3:48 pm
Posted by DatWood
DFW
Member since Jun 2020
247 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:47 pm to
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Are they breaking the law at a statistically significant higher rate than white people?
all depends on the crime.
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
4254 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:47 pm to
At this point in time you would have to be a fricking RACIST to watch any of this sport nonsense that is inflicted with the BLM, kneeling etc.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:47 pm to
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They have the nerve to call our board one-sided when their site actually has policies Banning any thought they don't like


Rex was once banned from DU for being too conservative. That's not a joke...
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:49 pm to
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Are they breaking the law at a statistically significant higher rate than white people

I know most conservative like the respond with this point but it's actually not the strongest Point against the Absurd stat

The strongest Point relates to population distribution. You see an order for there to be a negative interaction with a police officer you first must actually interact with a police officer. And interactions with police officers are a function of both officers per capita and officers per square mile. Which means interactions are more common in population centers. And blacks are not 13% of the population in population centers so the expected rate wouldn't be 13%

Sometimes to illustrate a bad stat it's helpful to use an unrelated stat that does the same problem

If you wanted to calculate somebody's likelihood of being harmed by a shark you wouldn't run the numbers and then conclude that for some reason sharks just dislike people who lived near the coast more than people who live in Iowa. You would recognize that people live on the coast are supposed to get attacked at a higher rate then people who live in Iowa. You can do this from any stats. Tornadoes don't hit people in relation to their demographics in the nation on the whole. In fact basically nothing does so using National demographics for the expected rate is ignorant out of the gate
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 3:53 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:50 pm to
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depends on the crime
nope.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143823 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:51 pm to
Short answer - yes
Posted by DatWood
DFW
Member since Jun 2020
247 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:51 pm to
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250 black people killed by police in 2019. 403 white

And you don't see the statistical problem with that? Really? What's the justification then?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:52 pm to
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And you don't see the statistical problem with that? Really? What's the justification then

I already explained why there isn't a statistical problem a little higher up. Your problem is you don't know how to do statistics so you can be easily lied to by people who do
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28144 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:55 pm to
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and a big part of American history.


Key word.

No use kneeling now unless you think the system is still racist.

I don't.

They do.

I'm not going to watch sports not simply because I disagree, but because I feel that what they want will fundamentally harm America.

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There is a need for massive reform tho. Undeniably.


I deny it, so it's not undeniable.

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Yes that is a bi-partisan position, whether you want to believe it or not.


Trevor Noah was excusing the riots by saying we need to understand how the rioters perceive America and the social contract we've all "signed".

Chris Cuomo asked the rhetorical question "Please, show me where it says protesters are supposed to be polite and peaceful."

Chris Palmer (ESPN personality) chided the rioters to burn that shite down on twitter.

I could go on.

No. It's not bi-partisan. Large sections of the left did support the riots.

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It's still there right out in the open, it's just not nearly as vehement.


Name the system/politician/law that's so clearly racist.

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If your principles or values are misguided then it is illogical and childish, by definition.


You can disagree with the principles all you want, but the act of not supporting something, however fun it might be, because it goes against your principles is a show of strength and maturity.

The fact that you didn't see that, or still don't see that, shows how weak of a person you are.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28144 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:56 pm to
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all depends on the crime.


Lets look at the major violent crimes.

Rape.

Assault.

Murder.

Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:56 pm to
Anyone that does is a giant pussy. FOOTBALL beats everything.
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